Say no to organ donation
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Are you and organ donor? Or are you just debating?
Ethics is how you decide to do things based on principles and values. Mistakes are things that are not under your direct control and that you didn't intend.
The decision is not fully made by the doctors that will treat you anyway. There are guidelines that they have to follow, lest they will be stripped of their license and harshly (and rightly so) prosecuted.
Sure you don't know if THAT particular team of doctors will make the right decision, they might be corrupted to the core and a bunch of psychopaths. It's also the case that you don't know, anytime you go to the doctor for a cough or cold, if that doctor is not a psychopath that loves making his patients suffer and will prescribe rat poison. There are many things we don't know in life. It's not an excuse to not do anything. It's a moment to weigh the possibilities, and see the probabilities, and to see if you trust that profession or not.
Doctors have a good record of making the right decision in that kind of things, the guidelines are clear, they have to wait brain death before harvesting, and they will not stop to save you until you're dead. Go to a doctor and say to his face that he won't try to save you, he'll punch you. That's his greatest pride in life, trying and sometimes succeeding saving the life of its fellow humans. The doctors have absolutely no incentive to stop trying to save you.
I'd like to add that my personal position on the subject of organ donation (i.e. if I'm a donor or not) is not relevant to this discussion. You have every freaking right to say no to organ donation. I'd just like you to take the decision on good rational basis and not be swayed by bad arguments. The belief that doctors will not try to save you if you are donor is unfounded, that is all.
I have another question. I read somewhere that Israel passed a law where you have to be an organ donor to get an organ if you are in need of one. If you're not an organ donor and you need one you can't get on the list to receive one.
Do you think we should pass a law in America like that?
In my opinion, the vast majority of people who are not donor are not donors for personal reasons that have nothing to do with that belief, some want to be "whole" when entering the afterlife they believe in. Some want to have their body sacred as it was when they were alive. Some are not comfortable with a part of them being given like a bunch of meat to someone else. There are plenty of reasons, and they are all valid for them. As long as the reason is based on sound thinking, I have no problem with it.
I think overall the balance weighs in the direction of chosing an organ donor as a good one, because it's a prolongation of our pure altruistic behavior, which is giving to other, without wanting any reward for it, because instinstively we know we'd like to be the recipient of such altruistic behavior, and thus if everyone is altruistic in some way, everyone wins something. There is probably no compelling secular argument against organ donation and therefore it should be a choice that is easily made and benefits everyone including you, if you ever need an organ you'll be glad someone checked that checkbox
The Israeli law has no bearing on this debate, it's not relevant.
couchpotayto forfeited this round.
my opponent has misconceptions about the organ donation process that have been corrected. he is still free to say no to organ donation, but no need to resort to bad arguments for the reason why.
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