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Schizophrenia is the worst mental illness by far...

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Started: 8/20/2015 Category: Health
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john2054

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Schizophrenia is the worst mental illness by far. I appreciate that there are other mental illnesses, such as bipolar and personality disorder, but not only is Schizophrenia incurable, to all working definitions, also too it is associated with dibilitating medications, the side effects of which strip one of your sex drive and sanity. Amen!
opinionatedbritt

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Firstly, I personally believe that you can never argue that one illness or person or object is the "worst" mental disease by far because its up to opinion. Someone with cancer might say depression or bipolar is the worst because they have gone through such a trauma in chemo and treatments. I am not arguing that Schizophrenia isn't one of the worst. It is a hard disease to cope with but it definitely isn't the worst "BY FAR". Of course schizophrenia is such a traumatising illness for the people around them as well as themselves but mental disorders like bipolar can be equally as scary. Imagine being two different individuals and not being able to control who you are and what you are doing half the time. As in not even being aware about who you are anymore. There have been so many cases where people with bipolar have been murdering people, thinking they are on secret missions, and so oblivious to the world around them that family members are scared to be around them. Of course you can argue back how Schizophrenia has it worse, but how do we ever determine what the worst is? What if tomorrow you woke up tomorrow and literally could get out of bed because you were afraid of what was outside? What if you literally were so terrified that you couldn't move and talk and walk normally. The thing is with Schizophrenia, if you have it, people understand, and your family will always try to help out but with a mental illness like MAJOR depression, lots of individuals in our society still question if depression is even a proper thing. You have heard so many times people say, "she's just an attention seeker," and then suicides occur from it. There are so many suicide cases which occur from depression that I don't think it would be valid to say to someone with depression or anxiety that, "No. you're not going through as tough a time as someone with Schizophrenia." People have their own experience and that's the way it works. There is no definite way to do one thing or decide one thing. And therefore it is impossible to assume that Schizophrenia is the worst mental illness
Debate Round No. 1
john2054

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opinionatedbritt

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Debate Round No. 2
john2054

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Sorry that i missed out on the last round. As far as people understanding you with Schizophrenia, actually this couldn't be further from the truth. The majority of people with this condition are ostracized and isolated from both their immediate family and friends, and can find themselves locked away in secure hospital settings for years on end, with no one to listen to except their treating pschiatrist, who if you are lucky and get a good one, will help you through it. However, as the term implies, the very nature of 'Stigma' means that people, treating professionals included, tend to separate and discriminate against you. Resulting in some prolonged stays in hospital against your will. My last one lasted two years.

And compliance and insight, doesn't mean knowledge in to the causes and epitemolgy of your condition, but agreement with the prevailing consensus quo. Ergo the view that you 'should be on medication' and coming off it only 'hastens your psychosis/relapse'. What this fails to appreciate is that, people can get better without medication, eventually assuming this progression is managed, and that actually these drugs, the major traquillizers, both typical and atypical antipsychotics/ psytropical treatments, are renown for their negative side effects, ranging from extra pyramidial activity (tremors), drooling impotence and zombie stare. All of which i have experienced to some extent in recent months.

I am not arguing with the fact that some people, 'need to take' their meds. Myself not withstanding. However, the prognosis of a life long condition, and the fact that the medical 'psychiatric' fraternity, is all to happy to put you in a box and lock you away, really needs to change. No wonder this field has been much maligned, and indeed is very much seen as the underdog of the medical disciplines.

They get a hell of a lot of money, from drugs firms sponsorships, and indeed the governing reviews body, the equivalent of ofstead for psychiatrists/mental health professionals, is actually owned by the drugs manufacturers.

But be this as it may, these poor professionals, do do a needed and difficult job. It can be very stressful, to deal with challenging individuals, some times on a weekly basis, and the threat of assault and legal action aside, the personal and psychological stresses, have been known to drive some doctors to suicide and drink. As indeed many more of the patients have done too.

So to conclude; I accept that there are other sometimes equally distressing and profoundly upsetting 'mental conditions', bipolar being just one example. Not to mention all of the physical alignments. But schizophrenia still stands aloof from the crowd, in my humble opinion, in that the award of this title, can, not necessarily must, but can result in a termination of any prospects of employment and marriage/serious relationships, as a result of the damage to emtional sensitivity, an inability to drive (as you will pose a danger to others on the road), and the rest of the terrible and demeaning side effects i have already mentioned.

I am not debating the fact that some people 'need' their meds, and some people will likewise 'need to be on them' for the rest of their lives. All I am asking for , is that these individuals are treated on a case by case basis, and according to their merits and progression. So for example if someone is able to get a job, or do a college course, this should be respected and acknowledged as evidence of their improvement, and not just swept aside as, 'well John Nash' could do it. Sure John Nash could do it, but he was a science (maths is after all a science) professor, long before he came down with this condition, and judging by photos i have seen of him in his old age, was never fully able to shrug of the chains of it's effects.

Again i am sorry for the late reply, and i am considering starting even another debate on the closure of this one, depending on whether i feel there is the need. Thanks again for listening. John Robinson.
opinionatedbritt

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by john2054 1 year ago
john2054
God exists or does not. You decide. And: Schrodinger's cat, the cat is either in the box or outside of it. It cannot be both.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
pascals wager, belief
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