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School Uniforms

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Started: 2/24/2014 Category: Fashion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Madhatterdebater

Con


School uniforms, in general, seem to stretch the notion of assertion over students. There may be advantages with respect to fashion conservation, but it still destroys the concept of independence and art. In reality, wearing such uniforms brings a relatively stable nation like America, more like that of Syria, where uniforms are required by students, as well as longer class days (everyculture.com). If there is not a decrease in student morality, then certainly there can be one in their artistic flare. As the sun-sentinel.com suggests, wearing “uniforms stifle creativity” implying that to be creative proposes to not wear them in the first place (material conditional then modus tollens). While they may have their benefits, they harm far more.


SecondPlace

Pro

School uniforms help schools portray discipline. It keeps schools somewhat in check. Usually public schooling doesn't require uniforms, some do, while catholic schools try to keep a uniform a requirement. According to Statisticbrain.com, Parents spend roughly 1.3 billion dollars annually on school uniforms, which breaks down to about 249 dollars per parent per year. That would be much cheaper than trying to get the newest clothing per year and spending money so that the child can have a new outfit of the "coolest styles" each day. School uniforms also try to keep the school itself united. The uniforms help diminish economic and social barriers between students. (greatschools.org)
Debate Round No. 1
Madhatterdebater

Con

As the speaker may have valuable points such as discipline, it still causes horrendous conformity. Simply put, conformity and discipline is like the military; such an act on small children in early education makes them machines. With Syria, that worn torn country has emboldened students with their blue uniforms (washingtontimes.com). Clearly, this is contradictory to “land of free.” To add, it apparently “[interferes] students' right to choose their dress…[Violating] First Amendment rights (Mitchell and Knechtle, 2003).” Thus, apparently this is militarization and constitutional infringement. With finance, parents should know how to spend wisely; if they afford new “kicks” every season, they certainly can afford at least 7 pairs of clothes.
SecondPlace

Pro

There is no way to show that conformity at a young age, elementary school and some high schools, would make children machines. Discipline is important at an early age in a child's life. Without Discipline, children will grow up not knowing how to face certain obstacles. Then there is also the the respect factor, without discipline it can be said that there will not be respect for others. According to lbschools.net, Schools where uniforms are required have seen a 95 percent decrease in crime, 90 percent decrease in suspensions, and vandalism on school property decreased by 69 percent. Also in Long Beach, California, where school uniforms are required almost everywhere since 1995, the average cost of uniforms per year is roughly $60 to $70.
Debate Round No. 2
Madhatterdebater

Con

To properly conclude, the speaker has brought many valuable points to the discussion. However, these methods are not always sound. To begin, the speaker compares to Long Beach, California, even though it has a higher per capita murder rate of 7.4% to 5.1% of NYC (baruch.cuny.edu). Clearly, this should not be possible with lbschools.net, boasting a 90% decrease. Frankly, it seems like inflated numbers, using a small sample space to predict the population, instead of using larger ones. Regarding disciple, "Depression and PTSD are some of the long-term effects when discipline becomes abuse" (CNN.com). To have much of it, regardless of corporal or not, is not useful. Nevertheless, this was a wonderful debate that yielded many valid solutions.
SecondPlace

Pro

When mentioning Long beach, California, I wasn't contrasting it from other states. I was simply explaining the impact that school uniforms potentially had on a neighborhood. Secondly, abuse and discipline are two different things. Although some people may argue that it is a form of discipline, abuse does not necessarily correspond with it. As you stated, "depression and PTSD are some of the long term effects when discipline becomes abuse", shows that abuse is the reason of the depression and not the discipline itself. Ask yourself, would you discipline your children? Or would you let them tell you what they want to wear because their friends are all wearing it. If you think about it they wear a uniform whether it's identical or not.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by breanna.ruiz1 1 year ago
breanna.ruiz1
Okaayy! It's school. If you were to pick up your child from school and you can't find them because the whole school is wearing the same thing. So there for, if you put your child in a school where they can wear what they want to. Then you wouldn't have that problem.
Posted by Dilara 2 years ago
Dilara
It's school not the military. We should express our selves how we want not how so e fat gross old man sitting in an office.
Posted by chuang8 2 years ago
chuang8
Btw you guys should put a little bit more info or it would seem like u didnt work hard. I mean u have like space for 7,000 words and you only put like 300 ?! Thats just wronggg
Posted by chuang8 2 years ago
chuang8
I seriously already think i know which side to choose. No offense pro but i think im gonna choose con :p. People should get to choose what to wear. Its a free country. And wearing uniforms cost way more money than regular clothes. One outfits already 25$ i bet. And we cant keep washing our laundry everyday and if we keep buying outfits one shirts probably only 5 bucks. See the difference?, so i believe having uniforms is bad.
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