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Self Harm and Suicide Are Not the Solution...

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Started: 4/21/2015 Category: People
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vladagerman

Pro

In the United States there were 41,149 deaths by suicide. Suicide is the 10th most common death in the USA. There are many young people who believe that they were born to die. People don't understand that life on Earth would not be the same without them. That one person that never cried will spend the rest of their life crying themselves to sleep. Suicide is refusal of opening doors, refusal of taking another chance. Its when you let the darkness block the light. Its not the solution to suffering, its the Great Depression all over again. Self harming just adds on to the pain you already have. Self harming can lead to a decrease in suffering. But sometimes self harming gets addictive and suicide is the next step. Its better to stay away from suicide and self harming, they aren't the solution...
Vladimirova

Con

1. Suicide

Herodotus wrote: "When life is so burdensome, death has become for man a sought-after refuge".


Suicide is the solution to a specific problem. It is a violent, irreversible solution but that does not make it any more a solution. It is fundamentally a solution to a world that has become intolerable to the person committing suicide. Removing oneself from an intolerable solution, even in such a permanent manner, is a valid response, particularly since it is often a lack of personal control over the conditions of the individual that result in action as drastic as suicide. Suicide can be seen as a last effort to exert some bit of control over the conditions which the individual finds themself in. It is escape.

Suicide is a right to which all human beings are to be afforded. As Arthur Schopenhauer put it, "They tell us that suicide is the greatest act of cowardice... that suicide is wrong; when it is quite obvious that there is nothing in the world to which every man has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person." Suicide is a final defiant assertion of freedom in the face of circumstances which have conspired to take that freedom away.

Self-harm is a coping method for intolerable situations, a less final way to deal with the loss of will. Whether that is abuse, others unrealistic image of you, spiraling collapse of everything you ever built, self-harm is a way to assert your ability to control something, even if that is only your own flesh.

Arguing that Self-Harm and Suicide are wrong, or will harm those around you, or are not a way to escape your problems, is a surefire way to excerbate the underlying problem and make people with suicidal ideation feel yet more trapped, yet more helpless. It can only make things worse down the line, even if it might reduce outward signs in the short term. The suicidal individual will remain in that trap, in their own personal hell, until they finally remove themselves unless you fix the underlying issue.
Debate Round No. 1
vladagerman

Pro

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Vladimirova

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
vladagerman

Pro

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Vladimirova

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
vladagerman

Pro

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Vladimirova

Con

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Debate Round No. 4
vladagerman

Pro

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Vladimirova

Con

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by ImaRealMeanie 1 year ago
ImaRealMeanie
those forfeits though
Posted by Vladimirova 1 year ago
Vladimirova
you were too late hect I got there first
Posted by hect 1 year ago
hect
I want to accept but it is not letting me
Posted by Ragnar 1 year ago
Ragnar
Dead week then finals... otherwise i might make an interesting case out of this.
Posted by bman7720 1 year ago
bman7720
Hmm.. I'm not well informed enough to accept this debate, sadly. I do however fully support someone's right to end their own life.
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Vote Placed by CASmnl42 1 year ago
CASmnl42
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