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Seniors should be required to take citizenship test before graduating high school.

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Started: 4/12/2015 Category: Education
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Fan7651230

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Hello, and thanks for taking time to look at the debate. In this debate this is how things will work.

Round 1- Acceptance of debating this topic and that all references are valid (no arguments here!)

Round 2- Opening statements and facts/references (you are allowed to use links from these sources: news websites/articles (USA ONLY), government websites (USA ONLY), or Wikipedia.)

Round 3 and 4- any arguments and counter arguments in the topic.

So let me start, I hereby accept that we will be debating the issue "Seniors should be required to take citizenship test before graduating high school." and also agree that any references/links are valid as long as they meet the guidelines in round 2.
Debater2.o

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I disagree with this because It is not necessary. They are already considered citizens. They could take a class in "U.S History", but a citizenship test would not give them any kind of advantages in the job market or to be a competitive candidate.
Debate Round No. 1
Fan7651230

Pro

They should be required to take the citizenship test. Sure, they are already citizens, but recent results have shown that people know nothing of the government (http://www.businessinsider.com...) (if link doesn't work copy and paste) Also, taking U.S. history is required in most high schools already, but not U.S. Government. It may not help them with their career, but if you plan to be a politician I think you would want to know how the government works. U.S. History just teaches what it says, history. Like the wars we've been in and famous leaders, hardly anything about the system of government. It would also help them be more informed voters. I'm pretty sure you nor I want idiot people out there who know nothing voting for our leaders. This test should be taken for required curriculum.
Debater2.o

Con

If a person plans to become a politician, or involved with the U.S Gov't. in any manner, then they should be able to further their personal knowledge of the U.S Government at their own discretion. Making it a graduation requirement would simply promote an indifferent attitude within teenagers about their state's government. It will simply be another "assignment" in their eyes. According to the Washington Post, (http://www.washingtonpost.com...) many skills that teens should know prior to graduation revolve around practicality and making themselves a more self-sufficient adult. The average adult rarely does much in their life that calls for an extensive knowledge of the U.S Government.
Debate Round No. 2
Fan7651230

Pro

With voter turnout at historic lows, and polls showing young Americans don't understand the basics of American government, the citizenship test would give them the essential building blocks for participating in the democratic process. If they seek to have jobs that take part of being in the government, they will have a better understanding of it. They may pass a law that they don't agree with, and would have no understanding of how or why is was passed. Watching national news hardly helps, since most of them are biased with democratic or republican views. A basic understanding of the government will give them the capability of forming their own political views and voting for leaders and laws they agree with.
Debater2.o

Con

While voter turnout being at an all time low is plausible, making a citizenship test a graduation requirement would pose as another obstacle a student must overcome in order to achieve the high school diploma they have worked so hard for in past years to get. It's as though after all those years of countless essays, book reports, presentations, tests, etc. all funnel down into the final challenge of a citizenship test. Moreover, you stated in a past argument that U.S Government is not a required class, so how would these seniors prepare for this test that ultimately, by which I assume, dictates whether or not they receive their diploma. On top of that, one can infer that there is no direct correlation between the # of people who take U.S Government, and Voter Turnout.
Debate Round No. 3
Fan7651230

Pro

We see evidence of the need for civic literacy every day. Some people argue "majority rules," as justification to trample on the constitutional rights of others. The typical questions in no way measure depth of understanding of the way America works. Take, for example, "name one branch or part of the government," or, "what did Susan B. Anthony do?" If high school history and government teachers were asked to administer the test, they would find it to be almost insulting to their student's intelligence. Let's let teachers do their job better and fund innovative civics teaching. Administering the test would be no more simple than asking high school baseball players to name the 4 bases on the field.
Debater2.o

Con

Adding the subject of U.S Government to public, private, and suburban school's curriculum would be a better rectification as opposed to a last minute test that only seniors must take. I we plan on extending the knowledge of the government onto our people, we must teach it throughout grade school. Not a test that will most likely result in very little retention of the content and will leave seniors scrambling just to pass the test with a least the bare minimum. We need something that will leave results with longevity. Not something that shows you studied the night before. With that said, while there may in fact be many Americans that lack knowledge of the govt, It's because it is a non essential topic that will not affect one's quality of life. As I stated before, if a person plans to become a politician, or involved with the U.S Gov't. in any manner, then they should be able to further their personal knowledge of the U.S Government at their own discretion. Otherwise, we should leave a person to their own liberties.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Debater2.o 2 years ago
Debater2.o
Likewise.
Posted by Fan7651230 2 years ago
Fan7651230
Also it's been a pleasure debating with you.
Posted by Fan7651230 2 years ago
Fan7651230
It's fine.
Posted by Debater2.o 2 years ago
Debater2.o
Just realized that I started the argument off in the wrong format. Didn't start off with the acceptance, simply got into the argument. Sorry bout' that...
Posted by Fan7651230 2 years ago
Fan7651230
I'm pretty sure most people knew what I meant, seniors as in 12th graders.
Posted by FuzzyCatPotato 2 years ago
FuzzyCatPotato
but seniors are by definition over 65

how could they take it befroe leaving high school

i rest my case
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