The Instigator
Sweatingjojo
Pro (for)
Winning
14 Points
The Contender
LR4N6FTW4EVA
Con (against)
Losing
7 Points

September PF topic, A/V Style!

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Sweatingjojo
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/16/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,396 times Debate No: 5425
Debate Rounds (3)
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Sweatingjojo

Pro

I'd like to thank LR4N6 if he chooses to accept, I'd like to point out that he has not prepared for PF, but I find his debate-skill most useful in practice. Do not judge him harshly, as his speeches will be rather quickly thought up.
Hey there, I hope that we can do an A/V debate following to a certain extent the rules/customs of Public Forum debate. 1st round is for opening (4 mins), 2nd is for rebuttals (3 mins) , 3rd is for Final Summary (1 min). I'm hoping we can both keep to the time limits in our speeches. I'd also like to ask that we both avoid spreading to the best of our abilities, as in PF such speed reading practices are strongly frowned upon.
LR4N6FTW4EVA

Con

This really sucks. I did it at 5 in the morning, and in 15 minutes. I don't normally do PF, so I am not as skilled at writing cases.
Debate Round No. 1
Sweatingjojo

Pro

http://www.youtube.com...

Yeah uh whoops, I went over the time limit, so my opponent can feel free to do the same if he wishes.

Yeahup.
LR4N6FTW4EVA

Con

Here's the video
Debate Round No. 2
Sweatingjojo

Pro

Yeah I'm not gonna have enough time to legitimately make an audio response with only 11 minutes left.

moot point with following laws, okay.

Now, onto the "enlistment check." Basically, my opponent believes that the people will not enlist if they don't like the war, and will if they do. My opponent cites WWII as a war where lots of people enlisted into the Armed services.

If this enlistment check existed, then 93% of the US Forces in WWII wouldn't have been drafted, so yeah, his whole first contention is wrong.

My opponent cites mass incompetence as something wrong with the draft, but these minor bugs are just that, and have always existed in the system, so once again, it doesn't matter. -crosses out second contention.-

Brings up enlistment check, which I previous proved as false, so he's wrong about that AVF is democratic.

My opponent on Iraq/ Afghanistan is wrong because he dropped my point about the soliders being on their second and third tours, which lowers their effectiveness.

My opponent also dropped my point regarding the need for the US to effectively respond to future threats and not be bullied around by countries like Iran and Russia.
Vote pro.
LR4N6FTW4EVA

Con

I don't want to sound immature, and childish, but since I wrote a sucky case, I clearly lost. I didn't research this at all. So, yeah, you won. Try not to use that PRO today.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Sweatingjojo 8 years ago
Sweatingjojo
Heh. this sucky case was the only one that I won with yesterday. But I used it with a judge that was white, middle aged, and male (likely to be a conservative.)
Posted by Sweatingjojo 8 years ago
Sweatingjojo
Its cool LR, thanks for the help though.

And yeah, I'll have 2 other cases for pro instead of that one.
Posted by gahbage 8 years ago
gahbage
"Yeah I'm not gonna have enough time to legitimately make an audio response with only 11 minutes left."

Officially not legit.
Posted by Sweatingjojo 8 years ago
Sweatingjojo
I could hear the crickets in your last post, LR.
Posted by Sweatingjojo 8 years ago
Sweatingjojo
Heres another link.
Posted by Sweatingjojo 8 years ago
Sweatingjojo
I was translating for those who may not be aware of the term.
Posted by LR4N6FTW4EVA 8 years ago
LR4N6FTW4EVA
"spreading" is speed reading. Funny.
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