The Instigator
Maiku
Pro (for)
Losing
0 Points
The Contender
maninorange
Con (against)
Winning
8 Points

Should Black People Be Allowed in The >>USA<<

Do you like this debate?NoYes+0
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 2 votes the winner is...
maninorange
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/30/2011 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 2,108 times Debate No: 15705
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (13)
Votes (2)

 

Maiku

Pro

Im here today to point the argument that i hear from schools,Airports,and secret sociality.The myth that the Negro is somehow incapable of liberating himself, is lazy, etc., came out of the American experience. In the books that children read, whites are always "good" (good symbols are white), blacks are "evil" or seen as savages in movies, their language is referred to as a "dialect," and black people in this country are supposedly descended from savages.
maninorange

Con

I will be operating under the theory of utilitarianism.[1]


Despite existing at 12.8% of the US population, blacks are responsible for 51.5% of homicides.[2][3]


I further suggest that it would be impractical to attempt to eject criminals from society as they will have already committed the crime.


I propose that, in order to maximize utility, despite the great injustice it would be, we relocate based on racial profiling for the safety (and utility) of other Americans.


(References in comment)

Debate Round No. 1
Maiku

Pro

I Disagree.

Homocide?A Big LOL
maninorange

Con

Homicide is indeed a big LOL: Loss of life. This is to be taken seriously.

Pro has not contested my point. In order to show that black people should be allowed to live in the US, pro must:
A - Propose an alternative theory of ethics.
B - Show that it is acceptable under utilitarianism.

As an addition to my argument, I would like to point out that whether the predisposition is genetically or sociologically based is irrelevant. Under utilitarianism, the only thing that matters is the consequences.
Debate Round No. 2
Maiku

Pro

Maiku forfeited this round.
maninorange

Con

My argument stands uncontested.

Reasons to vote for me and where:
1) Convincing argument. I have presented an argument, whereas pro has presented none.
2) Convincing argument. Pro failed to counter my argument.
3) Sources. I cited 2 government sites for statistics and one other for a definition/description.
4) Conduct. Pro appeared not to take this debate seriously as in round 2 he laughed off one of my statements without proper response, and he forfeited round 3.

Thank you for the debate!
Debate Round No. 3
13 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 10 records.
Posted by maninorange 6 years ago
maninorange
This is going far better than I expected it to...

Maiku... for the love of the non-existent God, please step up and show that racism is unjustified. Please? I really really really want you to prove me wrong here...
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
Nice round, forfeit incoming.
Posted by maninorange 6 years ago
maninorange
hehe... I was kind of surprised when I found out that someone actually posted it. I mean, is anyone actually that racist?
(unfortunately yes, but hopefully they aren't on this site...)
Posted by Pastafarian 6 years ago
Pastafarian
What a rude debate
Posted by Chrysippus 6 years ago
Chrysippus
Bizarre.
Posted by maninorange 6 years ago
maninorange
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[2] http://factfinder.census.gov...
[3] http://www2.fbi.gov...

I wish I had had more room. Oh well, I think I'll manage.

Oh also, I didn't notice it change on me, but the statement "...it would be impractical to eject criminals from society..." should have been "...it would be impractical to eject only criminals from society..."
I don't know what happened to it.
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
Should be interesting then.
Posted by maninorange 6 years ago
maninorange
Actual warrant =D
This is just to say I won't be getting to this until tomorrow night... I remembered that I'm busy today...
It wouldn't have mattered if I hadn't SAID I would do it today...
Posted by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
Semantics or actual warrant?
Posted by maninorange 6 years ago
maninorange
I'm doing it. I won't have a response until tomorrow though.
2 votes have been placed for this debate. Showing 1 through 2 records.
Vote Placed by Cliff.Stamp 6 years ago
Cliff.Stamp
MaikumaninorangeTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: Derpeit.
Vote Placed by Cobo 6 years ago
Cobo
MaikumaninorangeTied
Agreed with before the debate:Vote Checkmark--0 points
Agreed with after the debate:Vote Checkmark--0 points
Who had better conduct:-Vote Checkmark-1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:-Vote Checkmark-3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:04 
Reasons for voting decision: Obvious