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Should Cannabis/Marijuana be legalized

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Started: 2/17/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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SebUK

Pro

Round 1 is only for acceptance the debate starts in round 2
Spips

Con

I accept this debate and hereby wish good luck to my contender.
I hope this will be productive.
Debate Round No. 1
SebUK

Pro

Right lets get this thing going on i will explain my main arguments for legalization and i hope my opponent will do so aswell in his turn . 1.Prohibition failed For over 75 years the government has used criminal penalties to stop people from using cannabis yet cannabis is currently the largest cash crop in the United States, and marijuana is grown all over the planet , millions of people smoke it and never have any serious health problems because of it even the thought that cannabis prohibition is a good way to stop people from smoking it is as radicilous as the Flying Spaghetti Monster religion and is un-supported by facts and statistics which have shown that since the war on drugs started more and more people use drugs. My possible explanation is that it gives the people who use it a certain buzz or a thrill because they are doing something that society condems it's like a teenager sneaking out so he can try a cigeratte with his friends. 2.Better Quality and Possibly less use If cannabis was legalized the black cannabis market would mostly collapse because people would start buying from companies that compete against each other , No longer would people have to buy from someone in a dark alley who has no knowledge about business managament and puts stuff into his cannabis to make more profit . Marijuana is illegal therefore this is providing opportunities for teenagers to make easy money selling it to their friends most experts agree if cannabis would be legalized prices would drop down . 3. Hemp We need to change our energy policy we must embrace and promote the development of bio-fuels as an alternative to oil dependency and a way to reduce carbon emissions, it is all the more important to develop industrial hemp as a bio-fuel source . 4.It is not as harmful as legal drugs The propaganda is unbelivable Cannabis no matter what most people say is in fact much less harmful than legal drugs like alcohol and tobbaco the two most popular arguments are that Cannabis causes mental illnesses which is in fact true but quite rare and you would need to use it A LOT to actually get a mental illness from using cannabis oh and of course it is only if you have really bad genes or a family history of mental illneses and Two that Cannabis destroys brain cells which is a total lie, the idea that cannabis can cause brain damage comes from the Heath/Tulane Study of 1974 this study was done on monkies Not only were the monkeys given 63 columbian strength joints in 5 minutes, the smoke was administered through a facial mask with no additional oxygen. As you will find in any CPR or first aid manual 3 to 5 minutes of oxygen depravation will cause brain damage. The monkeys were suffocating. It was not Cannabis but the Lack of oxygen that caused brain damage no recent study shows that Cannabis has any link to brain damage. No-one has ever died out of Cannabis overdose this makes it one of the safest drugs out there . 5.Prison and Tax money In many places around the world prisons are extremely over crowded, Marijuana arrests make justice more expensive and less efficient we are wasting jail space for serious criminals and we are wasting the time of the police force , If Cannabis was legalized the government would make Millions or even possible Millions from taxing cannabis and hemp companies 6.Cannabis can be benefitual Cannabis is known to help people get through depression and anorexia it is also a way for people to socialize and meet people with similar interests , every day people are suffering from a variety of serious ailments. Marijuana provides relief from pain, nausea, spasticity, and other symptoms for many individuals who have not been treated successfully with conventional medications. What makes it even better is that it has a relatively low dependence liability and easy-to-manage side effects for most people the greatest risk of using marijuana is the relatively low risk of arrest. I now wish my opponent good luck and i await his main arguments against legalization.
Spips

Con

Thank you for your answer.

Currently, as you might know, Marijuana is getting legal in the US, this movement will surely evolve and will expand to other states. I am against this movement for several reasons which I will explain after countering your arguments.
To counter your first argument:
A prohibition can not fail, it can just not be applied or respected, if prohibition fails then the state has no control over its population and its habits. Prohibition on murder also failed since it still happens quite a load, so does stealing, assault and rape. I do not think you want those things to become legal because the US failed to prohibit them correctly. Does the fact that it is forbidden motivate people to do it? No idea, but if it does there is something wrong with your population, and not with the product.

Legalization of a product does not mean the product will be of better quality, it's quite the opposite actually. As shown here, the fact that a product is legal does not stop multinationals from taking advantage of the consumer by putting dangerous chemicals in their product. As shown in following scandals and studies.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

http://www.mirror.co.uk...

http://www.collective-evolution.com...

http://health.howstuffworks.com...

Legalization of Marijuana will not improve its quality. The price will go down, I can agree with this, but according to you a significant use of marijuana could mentally impair one. Price decreases > More to buy where you had less for the same amount before > More marijuana being used > Possible illnesses.

Hemp can surely be a bio fuel source, I highly motivate this and think this should indeed be put into effect, but bio fuels are legal already. So are hemp based fuels, and legal plantations of hemp (to make bio fuel) already exist.

By saying it is not as harmful as legal drugs you agree it is actually harmful. Marijuana caused less deaths than tobacco, but the consequences of using it are different. A person using marijuana will lose his reflexes and his self-control, which could potentially cause trouble.

As you said, Cannabis can cure a whole load of ailments, like pain (Pain reducers work too...), Nausea (Already a cure for that), spasticity (yet again, can already be cured). Cannabis does not help people go through a depression but helps them forget it, a night out with friends will have the exact same result. As for anorexia, I highly doubt the use of cannabis can help one cure anorexia. Unless you can stuff food in them while they are high.

http://alcoholism.about.com...


You say it has a relatively low dependence liability and easy-to-manage side effect, the last one might be true from the afflicted person' point of view, but it most certainly is not from its friends point of view, most urban fights are cause by one being mentally disoriented or impaired. This is caused by the use of a drug.

The use of a drug, marijuana is a drug, it alters one mind and unless the US want a nation of mind-altered people they should stop this movement. The short term economical benefits do not outweigh the long term societal problems that will occur.
Debate Round No. 2
SebUK

Pro

'A prohibition can not fail, it can just not be applied or respected, if prohibition fails then the state has no control over its population and its habits' The Population will not accept rules that they do not support , The government should not have controll over what drug people want to consume , the best it can do is ensure a safe enviroment and a regulated drug. ' Prohibition on murder also failed since it still happens quite a load, so does stealing, assault and rape. ' All the things you listed are crimes in which there is a direct victim , If a guy decides to smoke cannabis one day at his house,it doesn't directly harm anyone and usually indirectly aswell . ' it is forbidden motivate people to do it? No idea, but if it does there is something wrong with your population, and not with the product. ' There is nothing wrong with humans we have used drugs for thousands of years and therefore drugs are a part of human culture but let's not get to the drugs debate but focus on the topic. 'Legalization of a product does not mean the product will be of better quality, it's quite the opposite actually. As shown here, the fact that a product is legal does not stop multinationals from taking advantage of the consumer by putting dangerous chemicals in their product. As shown in following scandals and studies. ' None of your articles are related to use of marijuana drugs and good are two different things Cannabis would be of better quality because companies would start selling it legally they would have an interest in giving you the best product possible to make the most money they would put drug dealers out of business do you really think someone would prefer to buy cannabis from someone in a dark valley rather than a company? . http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk... http://economics.about.com...
Spips

Con

Spips forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
SebUK

Pro

I extend my arguments
Spips

Con

Spips forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
SebUK

Pro

I futher extend my arguments and urge everyone to vote pro
Spips

Con

Spips forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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