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Should Christmas be Secular?

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Started: 12/30/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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HydroFlourish

Con

As we all may know, Christmas derives from the term Jesus Christ. The celebration of Christmas is originally a Christian tradition. To turn Christmas into a secular sin would offend many Christian people who believe Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ.

All people need to respect other people's religions, that means Christmas should remain a religious ceremony.

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Debate Round No. 1
jmcnutt

Pro

While Christmas the name is strictly Christian, the 25th of December wasn't always for the birth of Jesus. The original festival that was celebrated was Dies Natalis Solis Invicti. It celebrated the sun god and was done strictly on the 25th of December. In this ceremony many Christians actually took place without claiming it as their own. In the 16th century onwards the church started seeing this ceremony as a good time to mark the birth of Jesus. Their reasoning was that the festival celebrated the sun and they saw Jesus as the "sun" or the "bringer of light".

So if we are speaking to offending religions, that first point goes to the Christians as they took what was a Roman holiday and turned it into their own. So for almost 1000 years it was a festival of lights and a time for all families to celebrate and eat and be merry. It has only been the birthday of Jesus for 400 years. Furthermore, the story of the birth of Jesus is most likely just a variation of the birth of Horus. Everything about the Christian "Christmas" has a very good chance of being all totally fake.
HydroFlourish

Con

Before I put forward my argument I would like to point out a fact, Christmas (all though not called at the time) was first celebrated on the 25th of December in 336 AD by the Romans, this was because of the first Christian Emperor, Constantine. Soon after that, Pope Julius I officially declared the 25th of December a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ

The ancient celebration of the Sun God you speak of, is part of an ancient tradition that no longer exists and has been gone for a very long time, true, Jesus may not have been born on the 25th but at the time the Romans where oppressing Christians, and as I mentioned before Emperor Constantine ended up making Christianity the Roman Religion. So if Christmas was derived from the Sun God celebration, it doesn't matter, because the race that originally created that celebration switched faiths and started celebrating Christmas. (and they were the first to do that)
Debate Round No. 2
jmcnutt

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HydroFlourish

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Debate Round No. 3
jmcnutt

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HydroFlourish

Con

Well, I don't have anything to argue about. Sorry
Debate Round No. 4
jmcnutt

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HydroFlourish

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Emilrose 2 years ago
Emilrose
@Ragnar, particularly a blogspot link.
Posted by Dishoungh 2 years ago
Dishoungh
All this topic boils down to is opinion and preference because, primarily, it's up to the people about how they want to celebrate Christmas. Some people celebrate Christmas as the birthday of Jesus Christ, others celebrate as a time for giving to friends and families and use Santa Claus as a symbol of the holiday, others do a little bit of both, others do none of those things. So, I don't think this debate can function as an objective topic.
Posted by Ragnar 2 years ago
Ragnar
A link is not an argument.
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