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Should DACA students receive In-state tuition in the state of Georgia?

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Started: 12/3/2014 Category: Politics
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Ever since President Obama announced the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals ("DACA") program the question has been asked in Georgia by DACA beneficiaries, can I now pay "in-state" tuition at Georgia Colleges and Universities? The question is simple, but the answer is complicated because of the differences between "lawful status" and "lawful presence," terms that are poorly understood outside of the immigration lawyer community. Now that clarifications have been issued by the Department of Homeland Security on "lawful presence" and "lawful status" within the DACA context, it is clear that the Georgia Board of Regents must allow DACA beneficiaries to pay in-state tuition, by the words of their own policy Manual.


Initially when this issue percolated through the Georgia state legislature in 2010, and in order to stop actual laws from being enacted on this issue, the Georgia Board of Regents, which is tasked with determining eligibility for in-state tuition, came out with a policy in October 2010 directly affecting undocumented students. The Board of Regents declared that all institutions in the University System of Georgia must verify the "lawful presence" of all students seeking in-state tuition rates.

After President Obama released the details on DACA in August 2012, faced with the question of students who now would be "documented," the Board of Regents, again addressed the issue of in-state tuition for DACA eligible students, and again closed the door on them. The Board of Regents used semantics to bar DACA eligible students from paying in-state tuition. The problem for DACA students was that DHS had not yet considered whether these students had "lawful presence," but had only addressed the issue of "lawful status." Let's look at the the specifics for a better understanding.

Policy 4.3.4 - Verification of Lawful Presence Policy

Each University System institution shall verify the lawful presencee in the United States of every successfully admitted person applying for resident tuition status, as defined in Section 7.3 of this Policy Manual, and of every person admitted to an institution referenced in Section 4.1.6 of this Policy Manual. Any student requesting to be classified as an in-state student for tuition purposes will be required to provide verification of their lawful presence in the United States in order to be classified as an in-state student.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (From the Board of Regents Web Site)

What documentation may I be asked to submit?

There are a number of ways for a student"s lawful presence in the United States to be verified. In some instances, the student will not need to submit any additional documentation. For example, if the student completes the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA), and the U.S. Department of Education determines that the student is eligible to receive federal student aid, then the student may not need to submit additional documentation as the U.S. Department of Education verifies lawful presence before awarding aid.

In other situations, a student may need to provide documentation of lawful presence, such as a copy of their U.S. birth certificate (certified copy), Georgia driver"s license (issued after January 1, 2008), United States passport, or Permanent Resident Card, as proof of lawful presence. Students should contact their college or university to learn more about what documentation they may need to submit.

NOTE** DACA Beneficiaries are eligible to receive driver's licenses to this day. Meaning that they have at least one of the necessary forms of documentation.***

You will notice that the Board of Regents used the term "lawful presence" in its Manual, NOT the similar, but legally distinct term, "lawful status." Lawful status typically derives from the fact that someone is in the United States on a specific type of visa (e.g. F-1, H-1B, B-2, L-1), or is a permanent resident of the United States. However, Congress has given the executive branch a great deal of latitude in allowing people to remain in the United States, and classifies those people who are here and known to the U.S. government as having "lawful presence," even if they do not have lawful status. So a person can be lawfully present in the United States and NOT be in lawful status. Granted, this is confusing, but, it should not be confusing to those who truly understand the law and are writing laws dependent upon precise meaning.

The Law on "Lawful Presence"

On January 18, 2013, the Obama administration updated their FAQs about Deferred Action and made it quite clear that individuals granted DACA are "lawfully present" in the United States, even though they do not have "lawful status."

Q1: What is deferred action?

A1: Deferred action is a discretionary determination to defer removal action of an individual as an act of prosecutorial discretion. For purposes of future inadmissibility based upon unlawful presence, an individual whose case has been deferred is not considered to be unlawfully present during the period in which deferred action is in effect. An individual who has received deferred action is authorized by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to be present in the United States, and is therefore considered by DHS to be lawfully present during the period deferred action is in effect. However, deferred action does not confer lawful status upon an individual, nor does it excuse any previous or subsequent periods of unlawful presence.

We see that DHS has made a distinction between Lawful Status and lawful presence. And it is a distinction with a difference. If the Georgia Board of Regents required that a student be in "lawful status" to pay in-state tuition, there would be no argument here. But, the Georgia Board of Regents only requires that a student show "lawful presence." It is undisputed that what defines "lawful presence" is determined by the federal Immigration authorities, since it is a specific legal term of art. We also see above that the federal Immigration authorities (DHS) has decided that DACA beneficiaries are "lawfully present" in the United States.

Which means there is only one conclusion from the law as written. DACA beneficiaries in Georgia are legally entitled to pay in-state tuition. Even still the Board of Regents continues to deny all DACA beneficiaries in Georgia in-state tuition. Legal action has been taken against the Board of Regents by Immigration attorneys that wish to help the DACA beneficiaries, however the Board of Regents has made no effort to rescind its previous decision on DACA students receiving in-state tuition.


If you need two forms of documentation then there needs to be two forms shown to get in-state tuition. Submitting a FAFSA doesn't prove you have a lawful status in the States. If I'm not mistaken don't you need a SSN to apply for it? I submitted mine all the same and still needed two forms of identification to get in-state tuition. And that should go for everyone else that is trying to get approved for it. It just seems like a way around the situation when it's really in black and white. If you are on a educational Visa you should still be considered out-of-state because you do not permanently reside in the US.

This seems like two questions in one. And technically, yes they should be eligible.
Debate Round No. 1


Being a DACA beneficiary makes it possible to obtain a SSN. With a drivers license and the government issued ID that a DACA student would receive that makes for two forms of identification. The question is should DACA student receive in-state tuition? Also, while I am glad that you see the logic in how they are in fact eligible, this is a debate. What will your counter-argument be?


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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Eduar 2 years ago
Undocumented students should be given the financial support they need to pursue higher education, which is quickly becoming a requirement for social mobility in this country. Studies reveal that by giving undocumented students the financial means to pursue higher education, we are realizing the investments we have already made in the primary and secondary education of undocumented students furthermore allowing them to attend college will position them one step closer in order to contribute meaningfully to our future and economic stability.
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