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Should Elite college admissions raise the bar for Asian applicants?

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Started: 11/16/2015 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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NSG

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Setting a higher admissions bar for Asians is a form of discrimination rooted in the "model minority" stereotype. The term implies that all Asians are hard working, financially well off, high-achievers. This image not only neglects the diverse backgrounds of Asian groups, but also attempts to silence Asians regarding their difficulties and discrimination experiences. The truth is most Asians are immigrants face language struggles, we don't have it easy as the rest of the pupolation think! Therefore Elite colleges should not raise bar for asian applicants.
Leugen9001

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I would like to thank my opponent for starting this debate. Please note that I am going to play devil's advocate: I do not actually agree with what I am going to say; in fact, I am Asian myself.

A chart showing college admittance rates by the Pew Research Center. This shows a socioeconomic imbalance, rather than something inherent to races--there is no evidence to suggest that intelligence is correlated with genes.

In many previous instances of socioeconomic imbalances, colleges and other higher education facilities have increased their admission rates for the underprivileged, and the admission rates of the privileged may have dropped as a result; this is an example of affirmative action. With this debate, I shall show that as Asian Americans are more privileged than many of their peers, they should perhaps give up some of their privileges so that others could get their fair share.

Equality

We ought to raise the bar for accepting Asian American into colleges, because Asians have the highest admittance rate of any racial group. According to a 2012 survey by the Pew Research Center, 60% of Asians have graduated from college, in contrast to the 40% for Caucasians and 23% for African Americans. There is no conclusive evidence to prove that different races have different levels of intelligence due to genetic factors, and differences between intelligence are more a result of socioeconomic disparities. As such, the statistics for college admissions show that Asians are more privileged than their peers. Reducing the number of Asian students admitted by colleges would mean an increased number of underprivileged people, as colleges usually have the same number of students admitted every year. If colleges accepted more underprivileged people, the underprivileged people’s living conditions and socioeconomic statuses would improve, making things better for everyone.

Discrimination

Reducing the number of Asian students admitted would make campus environments more racially diverse, and this would help reduce discrimination. Hate and discrimination often cease to exist when your classmates and friends are of a range of different ethnicities, and making colleges’ student communities more equal would help with that, so doing so would reduce discrimination.

Refutations

The term implies that all Asians are hard working, financially well off, and high-achievers. This image not only neglects the diverse backgrounds of Asian groups, but also silences Asians from voicing their thoughts regarding their difficulties and experiences with discrimination.

Although the model minority stereotype does silence Asians’ attempts to speak up about discrimination against them, the reason why colleges should accept less Asians is not the model minority stereotype, but rather statistics that show that a disproportionate number of Asians are college educated compared to their less privileged counterparts. My case is about dropping the admittance rates for Asians so that other ethnic groups could get admitted more, as current statistics show an imbalance; nowhere have I stated that all asians are model minorities. The fact that the model minority stereotype is harmful does not make changing college admittance rates harmful.

The truth is most Asians are immigrants facing language struggles; we don’t have it as easy as the rest of the population thinks!

Although Asian immigrants do face language struggles, reducing college admittance rates would not make things worse.

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