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Should Gay Marriage Be Legal?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/16/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Cheezy

Pro

The reason I think that gay rights SHOULD be the same as everyone else"s because they are all people and should have the same rights as every other person on this earth. A lot of people that are Christians, are against gay marriage because it is against the Bible, but personally, if YOU are a Christian and not gay, then why should be worrying about other people"s decisions and opinions, and if you are REALLY a Christian, you shouldn't be judging them in the first place. One of the major reasons that gay marriage is currently illegal is due to the religious interpretation that "homosexuals are sinners." Such a religious perspective should have no place in federal, legal matters in the United States. We live in a secular society that maintains secular views. The Ten Commandments do not define our legal system, so why does the religious argument "marriage is the union between a man and a woman" keep so many happy, gay couples from becoming legally married? Legalizing gay marriage will have no impact on religion and/or the religious view of others, just as religion should not have any impact on the issue of gay marriage. Think about this: If you were gay, and you loved someone in the same sex, and you two wanted to get married, but was denied because you were told by the state that you were not allowed to marry the person you loved, how would that make you feel?
Just because you are not gay, lesbian, or bi-sexual, doesn't mean that you have to treat gays like they don"t belong, they don"t fit in, that you don"t want them anywhere near you, or anything along those lines, and to be honest, some gay people are the most kindest people I have ever met and sometimes, I even forget that "hey, this person is gay", because they still act like normal people, look like normal people, and pretty much are completely like normal people, except they just don"t like the same gender as you and that does not change anything so they deserve to have the same rights as anyone else.
I have a really close friend of mine, that has a cousin that is lesbian, and her parents killed her just because she was lesbian. Honestly, gays and lesbians should be able to make their own decisions in life and what they want to be and do with their future. They shouldn't be KILLED because they like something and a lot more gays and than you think get killed because of that. Judging a gay person is pretty much just being mean to someone, just because they have an opinion. They are ALL people and deserve to have the same rights as any other person.
The majority of teenage suicides today are being committed because the child was bullied in school as a result of his/her sexual orientation. The same acceptance that will come about due to legalizing gay marriage will show teens that homosexuality is accepted and respected in society. We need to explain to younger generations that being different (in any aspect of our lives) is not a social disability, so that they will never feel the need to.
In the 50's, interracial marriage was illegal. But now, modern society understands this to be an unjust law that denied equal rights to couples who loved each other. The issue of gay marriage is no different. Denying marriage to two individuals who love each other is to deny them a fundamental freedom.
The majority of teenage suicides today are being committed because the child was bullied in school as a result of his/her sexual orientation. The same acceptance that will come about due to legalizing gay marriage will show teens that homosexuality is accepted and respected in society. We need to explain to younger generations that being different (in any aspect of our lives) is not a social disability, so that they will never feel the need to take their own lives because they are gay.
1Historygenius

Con

What is Marriage?

In this debate, we must understand what is the role of marriage society and how the government should act when involved in marriage. I am sure that first and foremost, me and my opponent both agree that marriage is a secular institution not a religious one. There is a separation of church and state in the United States, so we must understand that. There is a reason marriage must only be heterosexual and not homosexual. I will explain this reason.

Marriage in Society and Government

The purpose of marriage is to constinue the survival of society. With marriage, people create children for society continue. If heterosexual marriage did not exist, then there would be no society as it is a bond that brings a male and female together to create children. Homosexuals cannot create childre. If an entire society was made up of homosexuals then that society would soon not exist. This is why heterosexual marriage is important to society.

The government's role is to keep society intact. Thus, homosexual marriage should not legalized because it does not benefit society. The government must create a procreative society in order to produce more children. Allowing heterosexuals to marry does just that. Because homosexuals do not create children, their marriage has no purpose and that is why it must remain illegal. [1,2,3,4,5]

Parenting

We must also see what is best for children, who will be brought up in a society. Homosexuals can obviously adopt children, but is that a good idea? A study in July 2012 took up that task. What he found is that children with homosexual parents do worse in all catergories compared to their heterosexual counterparts. In addition, my opponent has brought up the question of marriages and relationships into the debate. This is about divorce. Divorce has always been a negative influence on children. What we find is that homosexual relationships break up more than heterosexual relationships. This proves that homosexual marriage has a negative effect on society. [6]

One article also proves that children need mothers and fathers and that families with only just mothers or fathers (homosexual couples) have problems. [7] Another study proves this. In fact it has lead to an increase in violence along with physical and mental damage on children:

"Homosexually-behaving adults inherently suffer significantly and substantially higher rates of partner relationship breakups,psychological disorder, suicidal ideation, suicidal attempt, completed suicide, conduct disorder, and substance abuse;therefore, as a group, households with a resident homosexually-behaving adult are substantially less capable of providing the best psychologically stable and secure home environments needed by foster children." [7]

"High rates of violence in lesbian and gay relationships finds significant support in the research. In a study Lockhart (1994) found that 90% of lesbians surveyed had been recipients of one or more acts of verbal aggression from their partners during the 12 months prior to the study. Thirty-one percent reported one or more incidents of physical abuse." [8]

"While it is not intended to detail the medical consequences of homosexual practices, the following diseases have extraordinary frequency among gay men: anal cancer, chlamydia trachomatis, cryptosporidium, giardia lamblia, herpes simplex virus, human immunodeficiency virus, human papilloma virus, isopora belli, microsporidia, gonorrhea, viral heptatitis types B and C and syphilis. The transmission of some of these diseases are so rare among heterosexuals as to be virtually unknown. Other diseases, such as syphilis, were found among heterosexuals, but not nearly as prevalent as in the gay population (Diggs. 2003). The CDC (1999) reported that 85% of syphilis cases in King County. Washington were among gay men. Presently, syphilis has reached epidemic in San Francisco (Heredia, 2001). Besides diseases, physical conditions associated with anal intercourse include hemorrhoids, anal fissures, anorectal trauma and retained foreign bodies (Barone, 1983). The list continues with the "gay bowel syndrome" and extremely high rates of parasitic infections (Hastings & Weher. 1994; Kazal. 1976)." [8]

Sources

1. William C. Duncan, "The State Interests in Marriage" Ave Maria Law Review (2004)
2. "PROTECTING AMERICA'S IMMUNE SYSTEM: A REASONABLE ARGUMENT AGAINST HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE" by Frank Turek
3. "Same Sex marriage: Should it be legalized?" By Alexander Adams, Sandia Preparatory school
4. "Straight is better: Why Law and society May Justly Prefer Heterosexuality" By George W. Dent, Jr.
5. Sherif Girgis, Robert P. George, and Ryan T. Anderson, "What is Marriage?" Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy 34, (Winter 2010)
6. Mark Regnerus, “How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study,” Social Science Research Vol 41, Issue 4 (July 2012)
7. http://catholiceducation.org...
8. http://www.narth.com...
Debate Round No. 1
Cheezy

Pro

o.o ..uh...FINE...YOU WIN...honestly, I can't find anything to argue against that...wow...congratulations I guess!?!
1Historygenius

Con

Oh come on, you gotta find good arguments somewhere. Think of this as a way to enhance your debate capability. That is why I debate newcomers sometimes.
Debate Round No. 2
Cheezy

Pro

All the things that I wrote before was actually things that I wrote in a persuasive essay speech that I have to say in front of my class and we have to have a debate about it on Monday....All the things you said are pretty much all true and I can't really debate about something if it's already true
1Historygenius

Con

Assuming that no one brings up these arguments on Monday, then your good. Debate.org is meant to enhance your debate skill. Maybe you are just not looking or thinking hard enough.
Debate Round No. 3
Cheezy

Pro

Cheezy forfeited this round.
1Historygenius

Con

1Historygenius forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
Cheezy

Pro

Cheezy forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by USN276 2 years ago
USN276
and really, you pull an article from catholic education.org?
Posted by USN276 2 years ago
USN276
By your logic, if gays can't marry because they can't conceive children, does that mean straight couples who can't conceive children not be allowed to marry?

"If an entire society was made up of homosexuals then that society would soon not exist." Making gay marriage legal isn't going to turn everyone gay, nor increase the probability of someone being gay.

The government shouldn't have a say in others peoples marriages. Your ideals lead into a nanny state. This issue shouldn't be left up to the federal government NOR the state. It should be left up to religious sects. If catholicism does not want to marry a gay couple, fine. They don't have to. Then that gay couple can just go to a different church of christianity that supports gat marriage to get married. It should be left up to religions. If a certain religious group doesn't support it, they don't have to marry a gay couple. If other groups do, then they can marry a gay couple.

@1Historygenious, how does gay couples marrying each other effect your life? Do you not remember life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? By imposing a gay marriage ban, you have disrupted 2 of these rights. Stay out of peoples businesses.

May I inform all that I am not a liberal, but a straight conservative/libertarian who supports gay marriage.
Posted by judeifeanyi 2 years ago
judeifeanyi
I think am tempted to accept this challenge
Posted by Jevinigh 2 years ago
Jevinigh
I almost consider a debate on this topic to be a form of sniping.
Posted by punkforchrist 2 years ago
punkforchrist
I have a friend who may be willing to debate this issue with you. I'll get back to you if he declines. If he accepts, then you'll know. :)
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Vote Placed by Relativist 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Graceful Concession. Pro could have at least try, but no matter.