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Should Gay Marriage be legal

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pcmbrown
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/29/2009 Category: Politics
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 5,662 times Debate No: 8814
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cbass28

Pro

1. I'm tired of people saying being gay is a choice it is not, i am a straight man and i didn't one day sit on my couch and decide to be straight or gay i just natrually was attracted to women a gay man would be natrually attracted to men their is nothing wrong with that. Your sexual orientation is no more controllable than the color of your skin.

2. People that gay marriage is imoral acording to the bible. I dont know if you know that the constitution requires seperation of church and state the government cant ban gay marriage because the bible says so.

3. Stop saying if theirs too many gay people the world will end because gays cant reproduce. Your acting like our world is dangerously underpopulated it's not it's overpopulated.

4. The definition of marriage has changed all the time a black person and white person couldn't get married. We also allowed Polygamy, thats why we change deffinitions to better fit our changing society.

5. Its okay to have slight problems with gay marriage for religous reasons but don't ban it legalizing gay marriage is not going to turn you gay. (sadly some people don't realize that) Some people have problems with alchohol that doesn't mean we make it illegal. Dont keep 4 million people(those are just the ones who admitted they were gay theres probally more) from getting married. If you think its wrong well the gay people are doing the bad thing not you.

6. Stop saying because we've voted on it several times and it hasn't passed we should stop wining. If we relied on only elections to free the slaves we probally still have slaves today.

7. Stop saying if we legalize gay marriage we might as well allow old men to marry teenage girs, and people marrying animals. Thats stupid we wouldn't allow the first one for the same reason we dont allow teenagers to have sex with old men. As for a man marrying an animal and animal cant consent to marriage and cant do any work at home. gay marriage is between two people who love each other and want to be toghether and are responsible enough to make that decision.

8. Don't say that since gays can't have kids they shouldn't get married. By that argument i could say people who cant reproduce cant get married or by law all Married Couples must have kids. Plus gays can adopt (this is a gay marriage debate not a gay adoption debate we can debate adoption another time.)

One last thing to think about religion is more of a choice than your sexual orientation
pcmbrown

Con

gay-homosexual

marriage-the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

Both definitions from Merriam-Webster.

Gay marriage, presumably a marriage which is somehow related to homosexuality, e.g. one or both partners are homosexual, is legal. Nearly every form of marriage is legal. There is no need to legalize that which is legal. It is far simpler to create a new, legal institution, a civil union, and leave the definition of marriage to the Church. I propose that civil union status, along with benefits, be given to all those who become, or are currently married, and that the government ceases to regulate marriage.

I concede all points, excepting 4. An interracial marriage always fit the definitions, and when did we legalize polygamy?
Debate Round No. 1
cbass28

Pro

To answer your last question, interacial couples fit the definition of marriage but ny the governments view it was wrong, sorry i should have worded it a little better and polygamy was banned in 1890 but it was legal before

By your argumemt your argument you saying atheists cant married because marriage is a church thing
pcmbrown

Con

Marriage is an institution of the Church, and should remain such. The government ought assign the status of civil union to any married couple, or any couple wishing to become married. Further, since any sort of marriage is legal, my opponent is arguing the status quo. As my case has gone unrefuted, please extend.
Debate Round No. 2
cbass28

Pro

cbass28 forfeited this round.
pcmbrown

Con

Extend my arguments.
Debate Round No. 3
cbass28

Pro

cbass28 forfeited this round.
pcmbrown

Con

Unfortunate, extend all arguments.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by finley5 2 years ago
finley5
Yes gay marriage should be legal. It seems ridiculous to me that is not. Two adults deciding to join together for life is not a decision that should be governed. Just because two people are the same sex doesn't mean they don't deserve to be able to be legally joined together. Whether it is for medical benefits, or the ability to make decisions about your children or spouse or simply to show their commitment and love for each other it doesn't matter. To deny this would be like denying two people of different races or religions to be married. It is their decision who to spend their life with. The primary reason people are opposed is for religious reasons but that shouldn't affect the legality, it is just someone's opinion. Whether someone else is married or not affects noone but them. Respecting different lifestyles is important
Posted by DeeJay0018 2 years ago
DeeJay0018
I can't even read this because the grammar is so bad. I would love to see both sides of this argument, but that is just ridiculous.
Posted by Lexicaholic 8 years ago
Lexicaholic
RFD: CON
(1) I agreed with Pro at the beginning, expecting another objector saying something along the lines of "You don't understand! If we let the gays marry, then children will marry animals who are also their second cousins! It's not right!"
(2) I agreed with Con at the end. It's time smarter people told people like the aforementioned hypothetical debater that marriage is for chumps, anyway.
(3) Con had better conduct. Red forfeit BAD.
(4) Tie, sort of similar, not a lot of text going on ...
(5) Con made the much more convincing argument.
(6) Tie. No one used sources.
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