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Should Jobs be disided on your GPA grades in school?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 8/7/2014 Category: Education
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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School_Debates

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I think no what do you think?
pie5434

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I negate the resolved (in this case the oppotent's position): GPAs should not be the deciding factor when you apply for a job.

Before I read my contentions, I would like to specify that we are being general in this topic. We are not picking out specific people who did well or horrible and still got a good job. We are only saying as a generalization on should GPA determine people's jobs.
Also, I would like to define school, as high school and college.

C1: It already happens.
According to National Jurist on September 28, 2010,
(http://www.nationaljurist.com...)

"Imagine an average student (GPA 3.25-3.5) at 47th ranked University of Florida," the report states. "If she had attended 20th ranked George Washington University, her grades likely would have slipped to the 2.75-3.0 range, and her salary would drop considerably (by 22 percent.) If she had attended 80th ranked Rutgers, she probably could have improved her grades to land in the 3.5-3.75 range, and earned a 13 percent higher salary. Access to a top 10 school simply would not have been an option " even the weakest students at the top 10 law schools have higher entering credentials than the median student at a school in the middle of the rankings, so our comparisons are most meaningful within a range of 20-30 places in the rankings in either direction."

Impact: The author gives an example on how if you slip a few points down on your GPA, your salary is cut. Also, with a lower GPA, your chances in getting into a better college decreases meaning that there is a lower chance of getting a better job.

C2: It determines how much you study and work.
According to Hilary Burns on February 26, 2014,
(http://college.usatoday.com...)

The three year study looked at 123,000 students at 33 U.S. colleges and universities that are test-optional. Researchers found that there was no substantial difference in college GPA and graduation rates among students who submitted test scores at these schools and those who did not. The study included private and public colleges and universities, arts schools, technical schools and those serving a predominantly minority population. All institutions observed the same result: High school performance, not standardized test scores, is the most accurate predictor of college success. The National Center for Fair and Open Testing reports that there are currently more than 800 schools that do not require SAT and ACT scores for admission. Isle Bastille, 21, a senior at Cornell University, says this study does not surprise her. "Test scores are a number that can be a shadow over the rest of your application and it shouldn"t be like that," Bastille says. "A GPA is also just a number but it takes into account so many different things like all of your classes and studying."

Impact: Colleges look at what your grades are more than tests and it tells them how well you do in certain types of classes and how much you study.

C3 (Big Impact): GPA matters in jobs.
According to Melanie Gaball on March 6, 2013,
(http://sundial.csun.edu...)
Sharis Amirian, a peer mentor for the CSUN Career Center and a graduate student in college counseling and student services, the importance of GPA depends on the employer. "If you are applying for a job in biochemistry and your major was biochemistry, they are probably going to ask for your GPA," Armirian said. "If your major is similar to the job you are applying to, it might be more important to include it." "Generally, we don"t advise students to include their GPA on their resumes unless its really good," she added. "But if your GPA is on your resume, be ready to talk about it." According to Judy Lam, graduate intern for the Career Center, some employers and even internships require GPA in order to apply for positions, and those with lower GPA"s may have an issue. "If they have a low GPA, they should probably explain in their cover letter why they had a lower GPA and why they should still be a good candidate for the job," Lam said. According to Ben Lou, who works as an equities managing director for the Getty Trust in Los Angeles, a decent GPA matters mainly because it shows the candidate is a hard worker. "A solid GPA shows that the person is diligent," said Lou who recently hired an assistant manager for the Getty Trust. "

Impact: GPA shows your recruiter that you are a hard worker. With a higher GPA, it is more likely you would get a job. With a lower GPA, it requires you to do extra work and tell them why you should still be considered. Companies already look in GPA as a big factor because they need to decide in a decent amount of time if you are a good worker or not. The only way to tell is how you did in school especially if you are a recent graduate. GPAs are a big factor in getting jobs. Therefore, GPA should be the deciding factor to whether or not you get the job you applied for.

For these reasons, I strongly urge a negative ballot.
Debate Round No. 1
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Debate Round No. 2
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Debate Round No. 3
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by pie5434 2 years ago
pie5434
I apologize for saying negate but the question was not really pro or con D:, so I chose con (in the resolution) but I am pro in the debate.
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