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BigBadBoyBen
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CosmoJarvis
Con (against)

Should LGBT be illegal?

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Started: 3/16/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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BigBadBoyBen

Pro

LGBT(Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender) people are disgusting and wrong. It is offensive to the laws of marriage which oh so clearly " a man shall not marry another man, and a woman will not marry another woman." LGBT should be dealt with swiftly and mercilessly. I think that Gay people, Lesbians, Bisexuals, and people who want to change their gender, or are called Transgenders are mentally insane. Insanity. That is what these people suffer from. Their head isn't put on right. If you are the people I believe you are you will say the same.
Here are some verses which help support my claim:

1. Genesis 19:5: "And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them."

2. Leviticus 18:22: " Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

3. Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

4. Deuteronomy 23:17: " There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel."

5. Judges 19:22: "Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him."

6. 1 Kings 14:24: "And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel."

7. 1 Kings 15:12: "And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made."

8. 1 Kings 22:46: "And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land."

9. 2 Kings 23:7: "And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove."

10. Romans 1:26-27: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

11. 1 Corinthian 6:9: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind."

12. 1 Timothy 1:9:10: "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;"
CosmoJarvis

Con

For the first part of my argument, I would like to address Homosexuality and whether it is or isn't normal. While the Bible and many other religions describe homosexuality as a choice and a sin against their God(s), modern research has provided leverage to the idea that homosexuality is natural. For instance, some members of every species (which aren't asexual of course) are homosexual (S1). No, these animals are not committing a conscious act againstGod. They simply commit homosexual actions because their impulses drive them to do so. Another example demonstrating how homosexuality is natural is a study conducted by Dr. Tuck C. Ngun and his team at the University of California. Their research leaves us to believe homosexuality is a genetic trait. To find this, Ngun and his team gathered 37 pairs of twins in which one was homosexual and the other was heterosexual. Then, blood was taken from each subject. By analyzing the DNA, Ngun and his team have isolated the Xq28 Marker, or gay gene (S2).

My opponent argues that the homosexual community should be "illegal," saying that homosexuality "is offensive to the laws of marriage" and calls homosexuals, bisexuals and transgender people "are disgusting and wrong," and that "Transgenders are mentally insane." To support his tirade, he uses Biblical verses. Not only does my opponent fail to use credible evidence to explain why he thinks transgender people are mentally insane and provides no reasoning as to why he thinks that the LGBT community is "wrong and disgusting," but he lazily provides Biblical verses with no analysis, some of which that are irrelevant or provide no connections to his argument.

My opponent argues that the LGBT community should be "illegal" solely for religious reasons. Not only are these invalid reasons, but the principles in the Constitution which separate the affairs of the Church and the state; the separation of church and state. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances," (S3). Therefore, no religious institution has the right to outlaw or impeach upon the rights of the LGBT community. The reasons my opponent has provided to support why we should outlaw the LGBT community are immoral, invalid and unconstitutional.


Sources:
S1) https://en.wikipedia.org...
S2) http://www.telegraph.co.uk...
S3) https://www.constituteproject.org...
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Posted by WilliamTell0804 1 year ago
WilliamTell0804
If some animals have homosexual behaviours, that doesn't mean that homosexuality is good. Some animals kill members of its species just by fun, and that doesn't mean that murder should be legal.

Psychopaty and egoism have also genetic roots, but they are not considered "good" nor "natural and therefore legal"

In every single culture around the world, the objetive of marriage was to make children. Homosexual "marriage" does not follow that rule. In most cultures homosexual sex is not considered "good" because is not productive.

I know that have sex without a particular reason feels nice and all this stuff, but is not better than use drugs or play video games while drinking soda all the day: they are just a waste of time, and those activities shouldn't be encouraged.
Posted by CosmoJarvis 1 year ago
CosmoJarvis
First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Posted by Iacov 1 year ago
Iacov
So you are arguing that it should be illegal for someone to be part of the LGBT community and to support this you use bible verses I think you know exactly where I gonna go with this. So my question to you is why should we use any religion to dictate law?
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