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Should Marihuana be legalized for recreational purposes?

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Started: 4/8/2016 Category: Health
Updated: 6 months ago Status: Post Voting Period
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I would love to discuss this topic. Looking for someone interested to be against the legalization of marihuana for recreational purposes


Marijuana, even for recreational purposes shouldn't be legalized. While there is a huge issue in our prison system with nonviolent offenders/drug offenders being over arrested, that's an issue with the legal system and not marijuana policies. There's a few really important reasons why marijuana shouldn't be legalized.

1.) It creates monopolies.
This was specifically seen in Ohio when they tried to legalize marijuana, both recreationally and medically. The amendment failed due to it's implication that only ten investors had exclusive rights to growing. CEO (Terra Tech) Derek Peterson said, ”From a business perspective, the measures had its draw-backs. The market would have been limited a small group of pre-determined growers, and left little room for competition. Although there was clear overall support for legalization, voters were not ready under this approach. Even with this less than ideal approach, we can all agree that prohibition has not and will not work.”
Not only would this create monopolies, but will also take away money from possibly poor dealers, mainly inner city minorities.

2.) Crime increases.
After legalization in 2013, Denver's crime rate rose 15% in 2014, showing that despite the obvious drops in arrests for marijuana, overall crime still increases, including

3.) Impaired driving.
Marijuana, like alcohol, creates impaired drivers. It harms reaction times, coordination, and judgement. Areas where marijuana is decriminalized have higher rates of marijuana impaired driving. (Colorado alone saw a 50% bump in marijuana DUIs)

4.) Marijuana decreases productivity.
A 25 year study by NOVA measured the effects of work productivity when involved with marijuana and found that, "those who were involved or had experimented with cannabis displayed lower levels of work commitment than those who were abstaining."

5.) /Long term/ health effects.

Despite a common belief that marijuana has no long term side effects, or is "healthy", this isn't true.

  • Marijuana smoke contains 50-70% more cancer causing substances than tobacco.
  • Long term use can cause brain abnormalities.
  • A number of studies have linked marijuana use and psychosis.
  • Marijuana usage deforms sex cells.
  • Marijuana can cause abnormal cell division.
  • It reduces the effectiveness of the immune system.
  • Rapid destruction of lung and brain fibers.
  • Can cause growth disorders.
  • Reduced ability to learn and retain information.

Debate Round No. 1


Nice argument, let's begin round 2...

I think marihuana should be legalized for some reasons like this ones...

1. Last time I checked this was a free country
You gotta have the choice, if you want to smoke you may do it, and if you dont want to, you just don't.

2. No one has ever died of a marihuana overdose
Not a single person has ever died from a weed overdose. According to one frequently cited study, a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times the amount of THC in a joint in order to be at risk of dying.

3. Marihuana is less adictive than caffeine
Coffee"s addictive effects mean that it might actually be a more harmful drug than weed, an expert has argued.
Matthew Lazenka, a researcher at Virginia Commonwealth University Health System argues that caffeine ticks off as many boxes as for drug abuse as THC, the active ingredient in cannabis.

4. Keeping marihuana illegal is expensive
The second important reason that marijuana should be legal is that it would save our government lots of money. In the United States, all levels of government (federal, state, and local authorities) participate in the "War on Drugs." We currently spend billions of dollars every year to chase peaceful people who happen to like to get high. These people get locked up in prison and the taxpayers have to foot the bill. We have to pay for food, housing, health care, attorney fees, court costs, and other expenses to lock these people up. This is extremely expensive!

5. It open business opportunities
Instead of being an under the table economy, it would create jobs, a new business niche and all the people who sell weed will do it paying taxes.



For this round, I'll address your claims.
1.) Free Country
Insofar as the "free country" argument goes, it's not as if we're in a state of nature. We're not free to do anything we want. To the point where marijuana is physically harmful to production, ourselves, and to others, we aren't necessarily "free" to do it.

2.) Marijuana Overdose
While it is nearly humanly impossible to overdose on marijuana, this doesn't mean it's a good thing. But once again, this doesn't mean that marijuana doesn't cause deaths. We have the intoxicated driving issue, which is brought up in round one, and, while fairly uncommon, marijuana can cause aggression and/or abusive outbursts.
3.) Addictive Effects
This is a good point (caffeine is definitely more addicting)- except caffeine is rarely attributed with accidental or purposeful violence, and since it's rarely used in large amounts for "recreational" purposes/for getting high, it's less likely that someone will develop a severe, mind and body altering addiction to it.
4.) Expenses
The issues that you're pointing out are issues of the system, not the marijuana laws. There are huge issues with the "war on drugs" because it's incredibly ineffective and a waste of time and money, and nonviolent offenders should go to rehabilitation, not prison, but those are issues with the federal systems themselves. It doesn't mean marijuana should be legalized.
5.) Business Opportunities
See the point on monopolies- marijuana companies will more than likely be owned by wealthy investors and create near monopolies and take away money from poor, oftentimes inner city minority, dealers. (aggression caused by marijuana) (marijuana violence)
Debate Round No. 2


For this round, I'll answer the same issues...

1.) Free Country
It is true that we're not free to do anything we want. But I think we are free enough (or we should be) to choose about smoking or not. You don't want to, you don't do it. But I think it is fair to the people who want to, to do it legally.

2.) Marijuana Overdose
You are telling here that marihuana cause accidents, so does alcohol and a lot of prescription drugs. So, why is legal alcohol, it is even worst. Marihuana is not healthy, but what is really healthy? Everything has cons, but some of them more than others.

3.) Addictive Effects
About marihuana + violence... When you smoke marihuana the less you want to do is something violent. If you drink alcohol you may be dangerous for the peope. So, the point of this was that marihuana it is not a substance that create you a dependence (like tobacco for example) and you can smoke whenever you want, and you do not depend of it. Alcohol, tobacco, some prescription drugs, caffeine,... you may be dependent of that.

4.) Expenses
It is true that this are issues of the system. I actually agree with you that the "war of drugs" is a waste of time and money. So, at least, if marihuana is legalized, they won't invest any more money in stop the producing of the consuming of it, because they are going to tax it.

5.) Business Opportunities
You cannot evite monopolies at least you live in socialism (because the government is the only monopoly). The point here was that marihuana could create wealth to the country. As seen in all the states (in the U.S) and other countries (like Uruguay or Netherlands) where marihuana was legalized, their economy improved. It is a fact, reduce costs and creates wealth.


Okay, so let's go over your arguments and then recap mine.

1.) Free Country

Okay, so the problem with this argument is that you aren't offering any real reason or comparison as to why we should be able to choose whether or not we do marijuana. If we should be free to do that, why shouldn't we be free enough to choose to do heroin or cocaine? Marijuana has a (pretty high) probability to harm the user or others. We're only free until it infringes on others.

2.) Marijuana Overdose

We're not debating alcohol legalization- that's an entirely different issue. But if we already have harmful substances, like alcohol, legalized, why should we increase that number?

3.) Addictive Effects

I'm not sure if your point on violence is simply speaking from experience or observation, but marijuana affects people differently and may cause some to become irritable or violent (which has been recorded) or could cause them to harm others unintentionally (like in driving accidents). But, also, back to addiction, marijuana is definitely an addictive drug, just not as addictive as some.

4.) Expenses

Why wouldn't we just solve the issue of the system as a whole? Plus, if you tax it, maybe the government is paying less, but the people are paying more for something that may harm their community.

5.) Business Opportunities

I'm not entirely sure what that first sentence is really trying to say, but we try to avoid monopolies, and usually succeed- they're against the law for the most part. But implementing something in a small country or state is different than nationwide effects in a larger country like the United States. We don't really know how it would affect the economy. But even if it was positive, which is nearly impossible to determine, the negative effects to society would outweigh any economic benefit.

Now that we've talked about those, let's go back over my original arguments, which you never addressed, and are all detriments to individuals and society as a whole.

It creates monopolies- which is a harm to the business world as a whole, and legalization will take away money from current dealers, who are, for the most part, poor.

Crime increases- this is a huge issue to the safety of citizens that was never addressed with any real facts.

Impaired Driving- like alcohol, marijuana creates impaired drivers that decrease safety on the road.

Marijuana decreases productivity- this is heavily backed by research, and would be incredibly detrimental to production will decrease the legitimacy of the work environment.

Long term health effects- marijuana creates a lot of long term health effects, as listed in round one.

We shouldn't legalize something else that harms people, both the people using and others, when there are already so many floating around in the United States. Because of all of these societal detriments, marijuana should not be legalized for recreational purposes.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by amazingpickles2001 5 months ago
I think it should too
Posted by Zebracakes 6 months ago
Okay, I think that it should be legalized for recreational purposes because we are a free country and it should an individual's decision whether they use Marijuana or not. If it should not be the individual's decision, then it should be the state's decision whether they want to make it legal or not. Each individual state, just as it is when finals and Keystones/Regents/or whatever the name of your state test final is called.

Putting that aside, when I look at Cons argument for the first round and their argument for the remaining rounds, it seems to me that it was copied and pasted from a website or another source, without being sited.
Posted by GoOrDin 6 months ago
oh wait, fawk. I came back to say it should be illegal* lolz. but it should be legal .
Posted by GoOrDin 6 months ago
It should**
Posted by GoOrDin 6 months ago
fawk No. - But should it be used by lazy people, perverts, idiots, children nor frequently/commonly?: No ~ obvs.
Posted by AnarchoBlonde 6 months ago
I'm pro Marijuana too, make sure to gather up your sources though. People might use the violent while high argument.
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