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Should Middle School Students Be Allowed To Contest High School Placement?

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Started: 3/9/2013 Category: Education
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SkepticWizard

Con

Hello everyone! On this topic, I am completely against the idea of a middle schooler contesting their placement in high school. What classes the high school chooses for you is the level of intelligence that you have shown throughout the year. Also, if children are allowed to contest, it won't be a question of whether or not they are smart enough to step up a level, it is how effective their parents are at arguing for their sake.
AbnormalReasoner

Pro

What is the purpose of school life? To prepare you for the working world.

In the working world, intelligence is merely one of many factors in contributing one's success.

A boss might be a dumbass, both intellectually and socially, but do you speak against them? Even if they only got to that position due to their parents? No. You suck up to them, manipulate them and one day strive to take their throne. This is what contesting for high school prepares students for.
Debate Round No. 1
SkepticWizard

Con

First of all, thanks for the challenge of a great debate.

Sucking up and sneakily plotting your way to the top is simply not the way to go. If we show today's children that the right thing to do under a disliked situation is to whine, than what will tomorrow's adults be like? School is meant to prepare you for the real world, yes, but the way to deal with situations is to help your own situation with hard work and perseverance. Not by sneaking around in the shadows and manipulating your way to the top.
AbnormalReasoner

Pro

"Sucking up and sneakily plotting your way to the top is simply not the way to go." I can definitely say that it most certainly is.

"If we show today's children that the right thing to do under a disliked situation is to whine, than what will tomorrow's adults be like?" Whiny, successful adults :)

"School is meant to prepare you for the real world, yes, but the way to deal with situations is to help your own situation with hard work and perseverance." Where's the hard work and perseverance in giving up at the first hurdle of gettinginto high school? If anything thi sis furthermore displayed by the second chance of a contest from parents.

Debate Round No. 2
SkepticWizard

Con

First of all, when a child is placed into a class this means that they have been evaluated, examined, and finally placed into a class which has been carefully chosen for them by professional teachers. Also, children are simply that. Children. Minors who are simply nothing but property of their parents. Using property for more than it was intended is simply misuse of a product. A child can adapt, learn, and change. But hey first need to know that they must work for every single cent they earn.
AbnormalReasoner

Pro

"when a child is placed into a class this means that they have been evaluated, examined, and finally placed into a class which has been carefully chosen for them by professional teachers." In most schools of this day and age, you just get put in a class, if you're lucky it's been set by ability but that's only at a young age. At 16+ you merely are dumped in a class randomly selected to fit the school's timetable block-scheme for subjects and teachers and if you're lucky you get in a good class if you're unlucky you're in a sh*t one. I don't have any idea where you got such a ridiculously romantic view of education.

"Children are simply that. Children. Minors who are simply nothing but property of their parents." Children have a mind of their own, personalities to respect and quite often show extreme individuality and uniqueness already at the age of just 10.

"Using property for more than it was intended is simply misuse of a product." Try saying that to the starving families in Africa who use torn clothing as pillows.

"A child can adapt, learn, and change." Lovely... Your point is?

"they first need to know that they must work for every single cent they earn." This would give them an extremely false and idealistic view of life. It wouldn't prepare them for the unfair advantage one could have by corrupting a company form the inside and working their way to the top.
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