Should NASA have a larger budget and be a much more important part of our government?
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http://endoftheamericandream.com...) for what I am about to paste about bad government spending. Now, this also has an example discrediting by foolish claim in my first argument of how "every dollar NASA gets is used well" :
"#1 The National Science Foundation has given $384,949 to Yale University to do a study on "Sexual Conflict, Social Behavior and the Evolution of Waterfowl Genitalia". Try not to laugh, but much of this research involves examining and measuring the reproductive organs of male ducks.
#2 The IRS spent $60,000 on a film parody of "Star Trek" and a film parody of "Gilligan"s Island". Internal Revenue Service employees were the actors in the two parodies, so as you can imagine the acting was really bad.
#3 The National Institutes of Health has given $1.5 million to Brigham and Women"s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts to study why "three-quarters" of lesbians in the United States are overweight and why most gay males are not.
#4 The National Institutes of Health has also spent $2.7 million to study why lesbians have more "vulnerability to hazardous drinking".
#5 The U.S. government is giving sixteen F-16s and 200 Abrams tanks to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt even though the new president of Egypt, Mohammed Morsi (a member of the Muslim Brotherhood), constantly makes statements such as the following"
"Dear brothers, we must not forget to nurse our children and grandchildren on hatred towards those Zionists and Jews, and all those who support them"
#6 During 2012, the salaries of Barack Obama"s three climate change advisers combined came to a grand total of more than $370,000.
#7 Overall, 139 different White House staffers were making at least $100,000 during 2012, and there were 20 staffers that made the maximum of $172,200.
#8 Amazingly, U.S. taxpayers spend more than 1.4 billion dollars a year on the Obamas. Meanwhile, British taxpayers only spend about 58 million dollars on the entire royal family.
#9 During 2012, $25,000 of federal money was spent on a promotional tour for the Alabama Watermelon Queen.
#10 The U.S. government spent $505,000 "to promote specialty hair and beauty products for cats and dogs" in 2012.
#11 NASA spends close to a million dollars a year developing a menu of food for a manned mission to Mars even though it is being projected that a manned mission to Mars is still decades away.
#12 During 2012, the federal government spent 15 million dollars to help Russian weapons institutes recruit nuclear scientists.
#13 Over the past 15 years, a total of approximately $5.25 million has been spent on hair care services for the U.S. Senate.
#14 The U.S. government spent 27 million dollars to teach Moroccans how to design and make pottery in 2012.
#15 At a time when we have an epidemic of unemployment in the United States, the U.S. Department of Education is spending $1.3 million to "reduce linguistic, academic, and employment barriers for skilled and low-skilled immigrants and refugees, and to integrate them into the U.S. workforce and professions."
#16 The federal government still sends about 20 million dollars a year to the surviving family members of veterans of World War I, even though World War I ended 94 years ago.
#17 The U.S. government is spending approximately 3.6 million dollars a year to support the lavish lifestyles of former presidents such as George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.
#18 During fiscal 2012, the National Science Foundation gave researchers at Purdue University $350,000. They used part of that money to help fund a study that discovered that if golfers imagine that a hole is bigger it will help them with their putting.
#19 The U.S. government is giving hundreds of millions of dollars to the Palestinian Authority every year.
#20 Federal agencies have purchased a total of approximately 2 billion rounds of ammunition over the past 10 months. It is claimed that all of this ammunition is needed for "training purposes".
#21 During 2012, the National Science Foundation spent $516,000 on the creation of a video game called "Prom Week" which apparently simulates "all the social interactions of the event."
#22 If you can believe it, $10,000 of U.S. taxpayer money was actually used to purchase talking urinal cakes up in Michigan.
#23 When Joe Biden and his staff took a trip to London back in February, the hotel bill cost U.S. taxpayers $459,388.65.
#24 Joe Biden and his staff also stopped in Paris for one night back in February. The hotel bill for that one night came to $585,000.50.
#25 If you can believe it, close to 15,000 retired federal employees are currently collecting federal pensions for life worth at least $100,000 annually. That list includes such names as Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Trent Lott, Dick Gephardt and Dick Cheney.
#26 The U.S. Department of Agriculture has spent $300,000 to encourage Americans to eat caviar.
#27 The National Institutes of Health recently gave $666,905 to a group of researchers that is conducting a study on the benefits of watching reruns on television.
#28 The National Science Foundation has given 1.2 million dollars to a team of "scientists" that is spending part of that money on a study that is seeking to determine whether elderly Americans would benefit from playing World of Warcraft or not.
#29 The National Institutes of Health recently gave $548,731 to a team of researchers that concluded that those that drink heavily in their thirties also tend to feel more immature.
#30 The National Science Foundation recently spent $30,000 on a study to determine if "gaydar" actually exists. This is the conclusion that the researchers reached at the end of the study ."
2) Space is our future. Mining a single smallish asteroid could yield up to 10 trillion dollars in all sorts of metals and water. Mars is an exciting possibility for future discoveries, of life, water etc and in the future, to maybe terraform. We as humans are curious, and other than deep in our oceans, there is nothing left to explore on this planet. Space is endless and full of thing we won't even ever know, and we naturally want to explore. NASA leads that. Lastly, NASA has a great impact on our everyday lives. At least 1,600 objects come directly from NASA research and development, things you use almost every day. http://www.nasa.gov... has a quite good list. NASA also has and is finding valuable research, both in space and on the ground. Heath, technology, production, it goes on and on.
3) If the government didn't invest the money they did on all the stupid things above (and there are A LOT more, just google it) NASA could have a much larger budget. I'm not saying we need to borrow more, we need to redistribute our budget, take 1% off pensions, 1% off defence, 1% off healthcare, and you have ~84.23 billion dollars to invest elsewhere. I agree that most of this saved money should go towards paying off some debt, but NASA would be capable of SO much more if its budget was made 1% of the total budget, from 17.7 billion to ~35.4 billion.
Boosting NASA's budget will help our economy. One way is if NASA has more money, there will be more jobs. Both with NASA and with NASA's many contractors. As many of us know, a job these days is a very valuable thing.
Now, to ask you some questions:
1) What has NASA done to hurt us and our economy?
2) Why should they not be funded?
3) What should we do about our debt and economy? Spend more money like FDR?
4) How is NASA wasting our money?
http://www.space.com... <-- Didn't really use this one but should mention it anyway
space is endless and full of things we will never know. But the earth we know well and we are aware of the issues and yet they remain. Fix them first. Create a peaceful world before we go into space to find more things or explore or whatever.
Now to answer your questions:
1.Nothing, but what has the post office done to hurt our economy, or all the furloughed workers? The fact is multiple sectors of the government have done nothing to hurt the economy and still are having their budget cut. It is all because of the government running out of money. You might say that NASA is more important than the mail company but i would argue saying that the mail company is very important to todays communication, businesses sending bills, and shipping purchased items. The fact is NASA does not make money but other sectors do and still have their budgets cut. shouldnt we invest in companies making money rather than ones that don't?
2.I believe i have answered this multiple times. The money is not there, and we do not need to borrow more. If we do cut back and create more money in the budget then we need to solve earthly issues.
3. Absolutely not. The new deal did not save America it was World War II that saved America. There is much evidence that FDR's new deal actually hurt the economy more. So no i do not think that is a good plan
4. They are not, see question 1 for more detail
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