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Should NSA Surveillance System be allowed to look at our phones?

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Started: 2/13/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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baltic05

Con

The matter of the government spying us frightens me a lot for they are disobeying the first and fourth Amendment in the Constitution.
The anti-terrorism excuse is just another claim with no evidence. Maybe some cases were ready to take action for criminal aspects, but the cases are very rare.
Also they try to cover up there identity with Angry Birds and games of that sort where millions of users download each day.
Spying on American citizens is illegal for NSA did not have a warrant to spy. If they had a warrant from a petition signed by American citizens, than maybe they could try to find out what the terrorists are up to in our nation.
The constitution was made by wise forefathers so we must listen to them for they have founded this beautiful country but without following the Amendments we just become ignorant people and don't remember what are forefathers did and how hard they have worked to achieve what are nation takes for granted.
Nicoszon_the_Great

Pro

I would state that there is nothing to be afraid of. What exactly does the average American say over the phone or text that is so important or cataclysmic that they wish to hide it from the NSA? What exactly do people know about what the NSA DOES with our calls or texts?

The NSA have big wear houses somewhere filled with huge harddrives where they download BILLIONS of texts and emails and IMs. This of course is far too much for anyone to sit down and skim through manually, so they have programs set up to scan for keywords. So if you heard someone shout 'BOMB' from their backyard, wouldn't you be a little worried? That's all they do, look to see if someone's talking about bombs, terrorists, rape, murder, or plannings of any other crime. No one is reading through your dirt, no one cares how many erotic pictures you send to random girls on the internet. You're not that important for them to care.
Debate Round No. 1
baltic05

Con

It doesn't matter whether you have anything to hide or not. The Fourth Amendment in the Constitution says that with out a warrant you can not search anyone's belongings. If it's in the Constitution then it must be important, right?. Even if the average American doesn't say anything that is important, you still need to see that we have our own lives and if the government knows that nothing is important about what Americans say or text, then they shouldn't intrude into our lives and are personal phones.
NSA gathers as much information they can and look for some key words like "BOMB" and I agree with you on that, but they have an unwarranted license for spying. I would agree if they HAD a warrant from the Supreme Court, they they would legally be able to spy on American citizens. Since 9/11 in 2001, only 4/225 cases of terrorist attacks have been prevented which is not nearly enough to repay us for all the searching they have done and even that, it says that they didn't even solve the four. Even if this could be allowed, if they didn't find the keywords as you said, why don't they just delete all the data? No, they keep it and store every single little data that we have done in our phones so later on they could use it against us. You say that it doesn't matter, but America didn't just keep it in America, they have spied on government officials in Europe in which they probably crossed the line.

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Nicoszon_the_Great

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Debate Round No. 2
baltic05

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by gkoz23 3 years ago
gkoz23
This is hardly debatable the 4th amendment says reasonable search and seizure. The NSA can't listen to our own PRIVATE conversations.
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