Should Roe v. Wade be overturned?
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Maybe I would be against abortion if everybody had access to good life conditions and justice, and if all abandoned children were adopted in a short time. But we are far from this situation, even more in third world countries like mine.
As I already said, most women who want to abort are those with no conditions to raise a child properly. The pregnancy also can put these women in a bad situation, since many of them depend totally on their work to survive, many need to take care of other children, and the pregnancy prevents them from having access to important things (like a job). With all this situation plus the poor support from the society, there are few chances that those unwanted children will be able to fulfill their dreams. And each time a unwanted child is born in a poor family, it becomes more difficult for the already born children of that family to fulfill any dream. This is the reality.
Another reality is that most abandoned children don't fit the pattern that most couples look for when they want to adopt a child. Most of them want babies, with no deficiencies, maybe only the white ones, etc etc etc. I would guess that at least 50% of the abandoned children don't fit these conditions. Adding these children to those who were created in bad conditions, you have a lot of human beings with a high probability of taking the wrong way in life, like drugs and robbery.
About religion, not everybody thinks in the same way. You cannot obligate someone to do something because your religion says that is the right way. This is a fact, even more in a country so developed like USA.
If you really want to do your part and be in peace, try to talk with the women from your community who are in this situation. Help them by giving them real support, by breaking the prejudices. It would be too easy for you and for many others to change the law now and then forget these women and, after some years, complain about the rise of the criminal and drugged youth.
Additionaly, I would prefer to die than to stay all my life in prison. I would prefer to die than to be raped and then give birth to a child that I didn't plan. These things go beyond shame, it is precisely the evaporation of many dreams.
Putting a baby in the world is also far from meaning that you effectively valued his life. A life without conditions to have a good health, without conditions to get a satisfactory education and without satisfactory means of subsistence cannot be a valued life. The birth is just the first moment of our lives, and it means nothing depending on what we will find ahead.
Therefore, if in the REAL world the state has no conditions to guarantee that these abandoned children will have the necessary conditions of living, health, education and subsistence, then the life of these children will not be valued at all. This is a fact.
I told you about the sacrifice of the soldier. From my point of view, these babies who are aborted can also be considered as soldiers doing a sacrifice for a better future. Important problems of our world are increasing: lack of resources, lack of food, lack of water, global warming and increasing life cost to say some of the big ones. Putting much more people in this world will not help to solve these problems. On the contrary, it will accelerate them.
I insist on it: birth is just the first moment of our lives. Bring a child to life and then allow him to go through his life under material, intelectual and affective misery doesn"t mean that his life was valued. We need to be realistic, and not idealistic when proposing laws like this.
And your analogy with the death penalty is not totally valid. The offender knows very well what are the choices: dying or living for the rest of his life closed in a place where he will not have freedom, but at least he will have food, hygiene, safety, access to information, somebody to talk sometimes. For those who fear the death or can deal with lack of freedom, the second option can be really great. The unborn child, on the contrary, has none of these guarantees until the end of his life. He has no idea of what is waiting for him.
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Vote Placed by whiteflame 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: I'll stay away from voting on this one, because I feel that my personal bias might get in the way of a good decision. Suffice it to say that both sides need to spend more time warranting their arguments and providing some evidence to back up their claims. Pro, you make the argument that these lives need to be preserved, but most of your response is just emotional, often ignoring the key points in Con's analysis. Con, you need to spend more time elucidating why a suffering life shouldn't be preferred to no life at all, as well as making other arguments, since there are plenty of others for why abortion as a whole should still be legal.
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