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Should Socrates had taken the Hemlock?

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Started: 3/6/2013 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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rollofrank

Pro

Socrates had to of drank the posion hemlock to take his life instead of escaping and living. If he had of escaped all of his preaching and all of his points about living and dying and of life would have no worth. Socrates never minded death, he states "how can you fear something you don't know?" If death is unknown to us how can someone fear what they have no idea is what to come of them. If you never died before it makes no sense to fear it. He also could of left Athens but he didn't, he chose to be under law.
bogarta

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Socrates should not have drank the hemlock because in my opinion he would have been giving in to his accusers. Although in Hume's "On Suicide" he says that if you can accept death it is not a bad thing, I feel that socrates would be giving his accusers exactly what they wanted. He should stand up for what he is preaching and if he says that he is innocent of corrupting the youth, then he should prove why he is in fact, innocent. He knows that he is not wrong for what he did, therefore he should not take his own life. If his only options are killing himself or escaping, he should escape and continue on to somewhere else and share his wisdom.
Debate Round No. 1
rollofrank

Pro

I don't think that he will be giving his accuser's excactly what they want because according to them he has curropted the youth already and that is why they are trying to stop him. Socrates is standing up for what he believes in that's why he is taking the hemlock. If he was to escape with his friends then all of what he preached would of meant nothing. He would of had to flew to another country in which he would of preached the same ideas and he would be put on trial all over again. He preaches about how you should embrace death not fight it.
bogarta

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Socrates was able to detach himself from his duties and not feel anything. If this were the case, then he should have stopped taking the criticism and moved on to a new place instead of drinking the hemlock. Socrates was a very wise man, so he should learn from what went on, and not repeat it so that he won't get charged when he moves. He does not feel pain and he does not fear death, but that is no reason to give in and drink the hemlock. He should fight for what he believes in and continue his wisdom. Without question, his accusers want him to drink the hemlock to stop him from what they say was "corrupting the youth". He does not fear death, you are correct, but he needs to teach more people to be like that, instead of taking his own life then the people that have gotten impacted by his teachings, will just do what he did because they will think that is the right thing to do. If he says he didn't corrupt the youth, then he should fight for what he is saying
Debate Round No. 2
rollofrank

Pro

Because Socrates was a wise man he had to take the hemlock and take his own life. He didn't corrupt the youth he just explained, "the unexamined life is not worth living." He doesn't feel pain and isn't afraid of death so that's why he drink's the hemlock.This is his way of showing how much he believes in his philosphy. I conclude my debate in support of the actions of Socrates drinking the hemlock.
bogarta

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If he believes so much in his philosophy, then he should want to continue to teach. By no means do I feel that the right thing to do is to take his own life. Socrates needs to continue to share his vast amount of knowledge. If he takes his own life, yes he is showing he believes in his philosophy, but if he continues to live I feel as though that shows more how much he stands behind his philosophy. He should want to continue to improve on his wisdom. Socrates knows that the gods wont punish him for taking his own life, but he states in his apology that "he does not have to do what the gods say". I conclude that Socrates should not drink the hemlock, he should choose exile, and continue on to another country and preach his wisdom based on what he experienced.
Debate Round No. 3
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