The Instigator
Artiom
Pro (for)
Winning
3 Points
The Contender
Thiskid
Con (against)
Losing
0 Points

Should Speech and Debate In Schools Be Split Into Two Different Subjects?

Do you like this debate?NoYes+2
Add this debate to Google Add this debate to Delicious Add this debate to FaceBook Add this debate to Digg  
Post Voting Period
The voting period for this debate has ended.
after 1 vote the winner is...
Artiom
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/22/2011 Category: Education
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,220 times Debate No: 19416
Debate Rounds (3)
Comments (6)
Votes (1)

 

Artiom

Pro

I strongly affirm te resolution that states: The Speech and Debate program in schools should be split into two different subjects.

Con will be arguing why the Speech and Debate program in schools should remain as one.

Round 1 is acceptance
Round 2 is cases/arguments
Round 3 is rebuttal/conclusion

Thank you, I cannot wait for an opponent to accept.
Thiskid

Con

hello I will take on your challenge I am assuming you are referring to debate being a speech credit correct?
Debate Round No. 1
Artiom

Pro

The Speech and Debate program should be splits into different subjects and be independently practiced due to the following three contentions:
1)Speech requires a much more liberal arts background. Debate requires a more statistical and intellectual background.
2)The organization that would result from Speech and Debate being in different classrooms, with different class times, tournament times, and practice times, would drastically benefit both sides.
3)The division of Speech and Debate would allow the students to focus and pay more detail to their selected events only.

Contention 1: Speech requires a much more liberal arts background. Debate requires a more statistical and intellectual background.
To begin, let's compare the difference between liberal arts and subjects such as mathematics and science. Liberal arts are "the medieval studies comprising the trivium and quadrivium". The studies involve a much more philosophical perspective, not statistical. Liberal arts are much more derived and altered due to the individual's opinion. In retrospect, mathematics and sciences involve exact, specific answers which cannot vary from person to person. So, liberal arts deal with no exact answers, while mathematics and sciences involve exact, definite answers which are proven to be valid. How does this tie in to Speech and Debate? In Speech, categories such as HI(humorous interpretation) are all based upon the performer. The person must take a script, and make it humorous based on their own personal perspective on what is intriguing and humorous and what is not. Speech also heavily recommends that the performer has some artistic talent(acting). It is highly unlikely that a speech performer, who recites a speech and acts it out, whether it is humorous or dramatic, can be performed by the students who only participate in debate events. For a more in-depth perspective, the left brain uses logic, is detail oriented, dominated by facts, math and science, and is responsible for order/pattern perception. The left brain is thus the mathematical and science-oriented portion of the brain; the one that debaters primarily use for the practice of their subjects. The right brain uses feeling, imagination, emotion, and is based on fantasy. Speech performers primarily use the right portion of the brain. So, since students who participate in Speech and Debate have different talents or knacks for one side of the brain's functions, shouldn't the program be split into two?
http://www.merriam-webster.com...
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au...

Contention 2: The organization that would result from Speech and Debate being in different classrooms, with different class times, tournament times, and practice times, would drastically benefit both sides.

Speech and Debate programs take place in high schools. The participants are all adolescents. As part of a study on adolescents, the following was elaborated: "Your teenager spends many more of his or her waking hours with peers than with family members. The interaction is direct, and much more powerful than the influence of teachers and other authority figures. Peer pressure tends to have more of an effect on children with low self-esteem. If a child feels compelled to fit in, the teen may do things that go against his or her beliefs simply to be part of the group." So, during the Speech and Debate sessions, the adolescent may be prone to having his event of choice changed by his peers for whatever reason. That results in having the student not being as proficient in his event as he could have been; because the event that he chose originally was directly related to what side of the brain the event was suited for. Another benefit for having the classes in different rooms and at different times: some schools have a vast amount of students. Through the time margin that the class is, whether it is an hour, 45 minutes or an hour an a half, all of the students' work cannot be evaluated and helped on. However, if the classes were split into two, more students would be given feedback. Therefore, everyone would benefit from having the classes split into two.
http://www.aspeneducation.com...
Thiskid

Con

Thiskid forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
Artiom

Pro

Artiom forfeited this round.
Thiskid

Con

Thiskid forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
6 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 6 records.
Posted by Artiom 5 years ago
Artiom
well, you accepted the debate so, approach the debate from the point that I stated lol
Posted by Thiskid 5 years ago
Thiskid
not at my school there's a speech class and there's a debate class but they make the debaters do a speech event
Posted by Artiom 5 years ago
Artiom
They don't necessarily have to be taught in different classes, but they still travel to the same debates and go under the same unified program.
Posted by Thiskid 5 years ago
Thiskid
are they not taught in seperate classes at your school?
Posted by Artiom 5 years ago
Artiom
No, I am actually talking about dividing the speech and debate program in schools into two different subjects: speech is a separate class and debt is a separate class
Posted by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
I hope Con argues that they shouldn't be classes at all. I'd get behind that.
1 votes has been placed for this debate.
Vote Placed by 16kadams 5 years ago
16kadams
ArtiomThiskidTied
Agreed with before the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--Vote Checkmark0 points
Who had better conduct:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--Vote Checkmark1 point
Made more convincing arguments:Vote Checkmark--3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--Vote Checkmark2 points
Total points awarded:30 
Reasons for voting decision: His contentions where not refuted due to the forfeits, no one gets conduct b/c of that. Since he was the only one with an argument he wins.