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Karelyn.Tatis
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Shanel.grullon
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Should The United States federal government increase public health services for mental health care?

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Started: 5/9/2014 Category: Health
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Karelyn.Tatis

Pro

P1: Mental illness is an important public health problem in itself; about 25% of U.S. adults have a mental illness but also because it is associated with chronic medical diseases such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and obesity.

http://www.cdc.gov.........

P2: Commitment on the part of the Federal government, State governments, communities, public- and private-sector providers, insurers, researchers, consumers, and family members to work together toward a single vision: the day when all adults with serious mental illnesses and all children with serious emotional disturbances live, work, learn, and participate fully in their communities.

http://www.samhsa.gov.........

C: The United States federal government should substantially increase public health services for mental health care in the United States.
Shanel.grullon

Con

P1: Public health agencies can incorporate mental health promotion into chronic disease prevention efforts
P2: the mentally ill are unable to serve as productive members of the community.

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C: The United States federal government should not increase public health services for mental health care because there is no need to increase services for issues that are already being addressed.
Debate Round No. 1
Karelyn.Tatis

Pro

One in 17 people in America lives with a serious mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, major depression, or bipolar disorder. About one in 10 children live with a serious mental disorder. In recent years, the worst recession in the U.S. since the Great Depression has dramatically impacted an already inadequate public mental health system. From 2009 to 2011, massive cuts to non-Medicaid state mental health spending totaled more than $1.8 billion dollars. And, deeper cuts are projected in 2011 and 2012. States have cut vital services for tens of thousands of youth and adults living with the most serious mental illness. These services include community and hospital based psychiatric care, housing and access to medications. To make matters worse, Medicaid funding of mental health services had also made cuts in 2011. The temporary increase in federal funding of Medicaid through the stimulus package ended on June 30, 2011. Medicaid is the most important source of funding of public mental health services for youth and adults, leaving people with mental illness facing the real threat of being cut off from life-saving services. Communities pay a high price for cuts of this magnitude. Rather than saving states and communities money, these cuts to services simply shift financial responsibility to emergency rooms, community hospitals, law enforcement agencies, correctional facilities and homeless shelters. State Mental Health Cuts: A National Crisis Massive cuts to mental health services also potentially impact public safety. As a whole, people living with serious mental illness are no more violent than the rest of the population. In fact, it is well documented that these individuals are far more frequently the victims of violence than the perpetrators of violent acts. It is important that the U.S. pay more attention to the mentally ill and increase public health care services to tret, and help them reintegrate back into communities and with their families.
Shanel.grullon

Con

Findings may have led to the discovery mental illness and it's association with chronic medical diseases like those mentioned. But if those chronic medical diseases were to be treated, so will the mental disease associated to. It is crucial for the communities along with government to work towards that "single vision" but there isn't a need for a substantial increase in public health services for mental health care.According to http://www.huffingtonpost.com...... A 2008 study funded by the National Institute of Mental Health found that serious mental illness costs the U.S. economy $193.2 billion dollars per year in lost earnings. That amount doesn't account for other associated costs, like the cost of incarcerations.
With the U.S. economy in crisis, health care budget cuts are rampant yet these cuts need to be accepted. Agencies providing that aid to improve record keeping and data collection so they can be a more powerful lobbying force. If these cuts on mental health care then agencies, people in need, and advocates should prove how and push for an increase in mental health care services. The United States should not substantially increase public health services while the U.S. economy is in crisis. These mental health issues should be addressed only when necessary.
Debate Round No. 2
Karelyn.Tatis

Pro

It is evident from the recent increase in gun-related tragedies, like the school shooting in Connecticut, that something needs to change. Focusing on gun control is one of the obvious, and needed, choices for change. However, just focusing on gun control is like treating the symptoms of an illness as opposed to the cause.

Over the past 50 years in this country, we have seen a radical reduction in the supply of services for those people in need of mental health care. Most people with mental health disorders (even the most severe) are not violent. However, almost all of the people who commit such a violent and senseless crimes do so because of untreated mental illness. In this "highly-developed" country, people have not had adequate access to physical health care, let alone mental and behavioral healthcare. We have allowed insurance companies and managed care organizations to define mental health care as "optional" and "restricted." We have stood by as legislators that have long mismanaged State budgets cut mental health services in the first round - the "low hanging fruit" so to speak. We have allowed the stigma that people with mental illness are "broken" to continue through a total lack of adequate education and prevention programs.

We need to make sure that this nation's healthcare overhaul includes best-in-class services for mental health. The best evidence-based research supports that mental health disorders are physical illnesses of the brain. It is no longer acceptable to treat individuals with mental illness as second-class citizens (at best). Not only can we afford to make this happen, we can't afford not to.

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Shanel.grullon

Con

Mental illness is a myth.
http://www.psychotherapy.net...
The brain is an organ " like the bones, liver, kidney, and so on " and of course can be diseased. That's the domain of neurology. Since a mind is not a bodily organ, it cannot be diseased, except in a metaphorical sense " in the sense in which we also say that a joke is sick or the economy is sick. Those are metaphorical ways of saying that some behavior or condition is bad, disapproved, causing unhappiness, etc. In other words, talking about "sick minds" is analogous to talking about "sick jokes" or "sick economies." In the case of mental illness, we are dealing with a metaphorical way of expressing the view that the speaker thinks there is something wrong about the behavior of the person to whom he attributes the "illness." Let's say a person has a fear of going out into the open. Psychiatrists call that "agoraphobia" and claim it is an illness. Or if a person has odd ideas or perceptions, psychiatrists say he has "delusions" or "hallucinations." Or he uses illegal drugs or commits mass murder. These are all instances of behaviors, not diseases.
Therefore, gun violence committed by the "mentally ill" is not justified and legal actions should be taken to address possession of weapons instead of federal funding for mental healthcare. the federal government should not substantially increase mental healthcare services.
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