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ImDoingThisForClass
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Jwil24
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Should Trump Support "Dreamers"

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Started: 3/15/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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ImDoingThisForClass

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First let me begin by giving a brief run down of who dreamers are and what the dream act is. The DREAM Act (acronym for Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors) is an American legislative proposal for a multi-phase process for undocumented immigrants in the United States that would first grant conditional residency and upon meeting further qualifications, permanent residency. According to this act dreamers are "immigrants who are under the age of 31; entered the United States before age 16; have lived continuously in the country for at least five years; have not been convicted of a felony, a "significant" misdemeanor, or three other misdemeanors; and are currently in school, graduated from high school, earned a GED, or served in the military." Based of this information three key reasons arise as to why President Donald Trump should grant these people citizen ship. First most of these people have been brought here against their will as children and have come to know america as their only home. Second attempting to deport all illegals is an act of futility due to the vast number or immigrants and limited resources allocated to the endeavor. Third an most importantly based off these qualifications these people have proven or a proving to functioning members of society.

Elaborating on my first point more thoroughly most of these people are as american as you and I. They have spent their entire lives here brought here by their parents in hopes of a better life. Punishing the child for the actions of their parents isn't the least bit just, especially one who fits the qualifications of the dream act. Elaborating on my second point attempting to remove all illegal imigrants is a futile effort and the time and money used to fund this would be better spent on devising ways for individuals to enter the U.S. legally. According to infoplease.com "In 2011, the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. was an estimated 11.5 million." where as "The number of illegal immigrants removed from the U.S. by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in 2011 was 396,906." The percentage of the illegal immigrant population was 63 percent (about 6.8 million people) before 2000. This just means our current course of action is having no effect. Again my opinion is to devise ways to facilitate immigration rather than stop it ways such as the dream act. Finally and probably the moral back bone of this argument is that those who are qualified for this act are upstanding citizens. All the immigrants that qualify are either students graduates or military, with no significant misdemeanors and definitely no felony's. A misdemeanor is a lesser crime punishable by a fine and/or county jail time for up to one year. Being that they cant have had a "significant" misdemeanor I take it they couldn't have had anything above a class C or 3 infraction. According to quora.com "In Texas, examples of Class C Misdemeanors include Theft Under $50 (Theft Under $100 as of September 1, 2015), disorderly conduct, public intoxication, driving without a valid license, etc. The maximum penalty imposed for Class C Misdemeanors in Texas is a fine of not more than $500, and there is no jail time imposed." Id hardly consider any person who committed a Class C misdemeanor a criminal and this being that absolute maximum for illegal immigrants is a testament to the quality of people the U.S. will accept.

In conclusion I have no qualms considering any immigrant who qualifies for this act a fellow american. The act dictates only quality individuals may become citizens setting a standard not only for immigrants but for citizens as well. As corny as it may sound I truly believe we should be building bridges not walls.
Jwil24

Con

First off I would like to say there are probably a lot of illegals that are hardworking good people that are here trying to make a better life, but we should not negate the fact that illegals are lawbreakers, why should we as a nation of laws give privileges to criminals. Trump should prohibit the dreamer act because it encourages illegals to enter are country knowing that they have an opportunity to seize citizenship, America already has an immigration problem we don't to add fuel to the fire. To your point that deporting these illegals is futile and expensive the truth is if they are deported for breaking the law they have a chance to enter the country the legal way, many of these illegals are not here on good merit but take the opportunity to take advantage of social security and the welfare system, illegals themselves cost the U.S billions of dollars, we even have to pay for refugees that have entered the country. We already allow 10,000 refugees into America where do we say enough is enough, We shouldn't award those who break the law, if their serious about assimilating into are society then they should take the necessary steps to become a citizen. Finally how can you determine what illegals are good and those who are bad, many illegals might have not been caught for other crimes unrelated to entering illegally. You can't just build bridges you have to secure the country and the natural born citizens should benefit not those who break the law.
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