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Should a student be suspended for self defense?

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Started: 10/1/2015 Category: Education
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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WithaChanceofReasoning

Con

So, should students be suspended for self defense? No, especially with a bully(s), if someone bumps into you, then that would be a problem, other than a student walks up himself or in a group and starts to literally "jump" you, then you give it all out. Get suspended and they don't? That's discrimination.
BaconRanger

Pro

First of all, define "self-defense". There is a wide variety of meanings, but for this debate I will define it as taking defensive action against an attack towards yourself. Whether or not it is self-defense, both students involved in an intense conflict should be suspended. Taking a deontological framework, it is the school's moral responsibility to suspend both students involved in a conflict. My first claim is that if a student isn't suspended for self defense, he won't learn his lesson. If a student is let off for self-defense, he will be more inclined to be confident in initiating conflicts in the future and simply calling it self defense. Also, students should learn that there will be consequences for being involved in a conflict, no matter what happened. This will help discourage further conflicts. It will also eliminate the possibility of racial backlash if the student practicing self-defense is a different race than the other. Not handing out equal punishment for both sides of a conflict could lead to many backlash problems, as well as equality controversy with parents and students. Parents are already upset about their son or daughter being in conflict, and if the other student in conflict doesn't get the same punishment, this obviously beckons the parents to start a conflict of their own. In more simpler terms, its like "kicking a man while he's down." The parents are already upset, you're just furthering their aggravation by giving their son or daughter a worse punishment than the other kid. This will ultimately lead to problems with parents and this could lead to a district-wide conflict. This is why not only student's initiating a conflict, but also student's practicing self-defense, should be suspended.
Debate Round No. 1
WithaChanceofReasoning

Con

WithaChanceofReasoning forfeited this round.
BaconRanger

Pro

Since my opposition forfeited the last round, I have nothing more to add on top of my previous statement, so I'll just restate it here.

First of all, define "self-defense". There is a wide variety of meanings, but for this debate I will define it as taking defensive action against an attack towards yourself. Whether or not it is self-defense, both students involved in an intense conflict should be suspended. Taking a deontological framework, it is the school's moral responsibility to suspend both students involved in a conflict. My first claim is that if a student isn't suspended for self defense, he won't learn his lesson. If a student is let off for self-defense, he will be more inclined to be confident in initiating conflicts in the future and simply calling it self defense. Also, students should learn that there will be consequences for being involved in a conflict, no matter what happened. This will help discourage further conflicts. It will also eliminate the possibility of racial backlash if the student practicing self-defense is a different race than the other. Not handing out equal punishment for both sides of a conflict could lead to many backlash problems, as well as equality controversy with parents and students. Parents are already upset about their son or daughter being in conflict, and if the other student in conflict doesn't get the same punishment, this obviously beckons the parents to start a conflict of their own. In more simpler terms, its like "kicking a man while he's down." The parents are already upset, you're just furthering their aggravation by giving their son or daughter a worse punishment than the other kid. This will ultimately lead to problems with parents and this could lead to a district-wide conflict. This is why not only student's initiating a conflict, but also student's practicing self-defense, should be suspended.
Debate Round No. 2
WithaChanceofReasoning

Con

WithaChanceofReasoning forfeited this round.
BaconRanger

Pro

BaconRanger forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
WithaChanceofReasoning

Con

WithaChanceofReasoning forfeited this round.
BaconRanger

Pro

BaconRanger forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Solomon_Orlando 1 year ago
Solomon_Orlando
People always seem to think that a suspension is punishment for the person using self-defense, but I think it's more of a precautionary thing. One, for the safety of the student to stay a bit more intact and, two, to figure out what exactly should be done about the situation as a whole.
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