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Should a woman carry equal responsibility for provoking a man?

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Started: 9/11/2014 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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lucyB

Pro

I am against violence against women but there is a point where women who provoked violence need to take responsibility for their actions. Women know their strengths and if you know your punch isn't as powerful, why poke the bear?
BobTurner

Con

Thanks to Pro for starting this debate.


=Framework=

Pro is affirming a positive statement that "a woman should bear equal responsibility for provoking a man." Therefore, she will have the entirety of the burden of proof to prove this claim.

=Rebuttals=

Pro states, "Women know their strengths and if you know your punch isn't as powerful, why poke the bear?." This is an appeal to rationalism, and though we could say that it perhaps isn't rational to provoke someone, in no way does this make it the woman's fault if she is domestically abused. The man has absolutely no right to lay a hand on her or to encroach upon her personal space, in spite of whether she has said or done, though bear in mind that in many cases the woman has done nothing wrong. All Pro's resolution does is paint a broad picture stating that we ought to blame the victim of domestically violence equally for the mistreatment that follows, but this is patently wrong as it attempts to justify violence, placing an equal blame on a victim of a crime instead of the perpetrator of that crime. It attempts to lend credence to the view that gratuitous violence is in any way justified. In a world where we respect unversal human rights and treat people with value, we cannot possibly accept this view.
Debate Round No. 1
lucyB

Pro

You miss understand my point of view. I do not condone violence against women and do not mean for you to think my view is that a man shouldn't be punish for hitting a woman. I feel as women we should not put our hands on any person violently, but we can not predict another persons reaction. I am not asking for a victim to take blame, but to see their responsibility. If you knew he would cross that line why would you put yourself in that situation knowing the consequences?
BobTurner

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BobTurner forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
lucyB

Pro

lucyB forfeited this round.
BobTurner

Con

BobTurner forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by customzz 2 years ago
customzz
I am absolutely against violence between two human beings however i do not believe that a man should not be able to defend himself. In my state the law is if a women puts her closed fist on you three times men are allowed to punch back once to contain the situation. when is enough, enough? Im not saying that women are not strong and that they cannot have strength like a man but i think everyone knows that men are superior in strength as a whole. But men should not let this go to their head. We men are blessed with this strength to PROTECT our women and family. Men are the brute force and mostly carefree. Women are the significant opposite. They are there to put us in check and stay outta trouble. I believe that anyone that acts too far outta place should be set back into place. So yes women should not poke the bear. but men should also not take it forgranted.
Posted by Garsot 2 years ago
Garsot
Man or woman there is no difference when it comes to physical violence. The society we live in today is so sexist in its separation of male and female, where the rest of nature does not have this problem. Woman or man, if you are saying horrible things and getting in someone's face, then whatever, a person should have the ability to walk away from that or brush it off as childish antics, but as soon as that person gets violent, i.e. starts to attack physically, they should be dealt with. This doesn't mean you have to beat the crap out of the person, you can just simply find a way to like wrestle them down or whatever. But if they are swinging full force, man or woman, they have the potential to do some damage and rate getting hit.
Posted by cheyennebodie 2 years ago
cheyennebodie
There are many cases where the woman will get in a mans face and just be a terror. I believe that in many cases she will push him to his limit just hoping he will hit her. Then she can get the house and the kids and the bank account and leave him with nothing. It is his house too and has every right to live there in peace.But the law is stacked against the man. If he stays calm, moves out, files for divorce, force sale of the house and move on.Trying to hold on to that kind of a monster will never end well.
Posted by lucyB 2 years ago
lucyB
I apologist typed to fast. Correction: We teach as a society that boys shouldn't hit girls, when it should be keep your hands to yourself no matter the gender
Posted by lucyB 2 years ago
lucyB
We teach as a society that boys shouldn't hit girls, when it should be keep yourself no matter the gender.
Posted by Shield 2 years ago
Shield
If a woman tells a man to punch her in the face and the man would not have otherwise done so, then the woman is not free of responsibility. It is called entrapment.
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