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pro_debater_2000
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lemusthecuban
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Should all Christian churches allow same-sex marriages and say they'll go to Heaven instead of Hell?

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Started: 3/2/2017 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Debating Period
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pro_debater_2000

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The boundary between Christianity and homosexuality has been a struggle for many years. I say we draw the line and make homosexuality an acceptable part of a Christian society and that homosexuals should have the right to be able to attend the house of worship and to pray to God and Jesus and sing the hymnals in a group of people without being discriminated or even beat up by others. In my opinion, all the Christian churches, including the Fundamentalist, Catholic, and Seventh-Day Adventist Churches, should change their restrictions on homosexuality and allow them to come in to the church, allow same-sex couples to get married when they wish and even ignore the verses that say homosexuality is punished by death because that is just not true (in my opinion). In my opinion, the only way you can go to Heaven is if you accept Jesus Christ as your savior, have faith in God, and follow the Ten Commandments (thou shalt not marry with the same-sex) or (thou shalt not commit sexual immorality) is not in the Ten Commandments or the Bible itself. The only sexually immoral sin that the Ten Commandments forbid is adultery. Adultery is not homosexuality, so why are churches doing this? Free the homosexual Christians!
lemusthecuban

Con

I would like to thank you for this debate and being able to have the opportunity to do this.

No. Simple answer. For one this can and never will work. No law or legislation can be passed to force this rule of Christian churches allowing same sex marriage. This is because of the separation of church and state. Nowadays, people like to distort the separation of church and state by making it seem like it was meant for religion not to interfere with political viewpoints. This in fact is the very opposite. It was meant for politics not to interfere with religion as the letter was written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. Further, the first amendment of the United States protects churches to make "their own rules." "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." -First Amendment United States Constitution.

So it is impossible either way in the United States to make churches allow same-sex marriages. However, let's pretend the 1st amendment and the letter promising separation of church and state do not exist. Let's pretend. You have the foundation of the bible and it's meaning. No matter what in Christianity, homosexuality is a sin there is no if and's or buts about it. I will use some scripture to support it.

1 Corinthians 6:9: "Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality"
Leviticus 18:22: " Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Also in the end of the bible it also says that anyone who changes the words to the bible they will be taken out of the book of life. This meaning, if you feel God's rules are not okay, and you make up your own rules and replace his words with yours he is saying your name will be taken out of the book of life which is a gateway to heaven. The verse is here:

Revelations 22:19: "And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll."

So the bible lists that those who practice homosexuality is of sin, of an abomination, and "not able to inherit the kingdom of God".

People will try to justify this by saying "God loves all his people and everyone sins so he can forgive them." This presents my next verse found in John...

John 3:8-9 "The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God."

So yes homosexuals can "define" themselves as Christians but scripture basically denies this claim by saying practicing sin basically means you are not of God you are of the Devil. So no this cannot be justified at all. God made us to reproduce and have children that will glorify his name. As cliche as it is, if God wanted gay to be in this world he would have created two males to have sex and reproduce or two females to have sex and reproduce. But he created a male and a female and the same gender cannot reproduce. The scripture backs the consequences. So any church that tries to allow this in their teachings also is disobeying Revelations 22:19 and that consequence shall follow.

I am looking forward to the next round. Before responding please read everything I said carefully and take it into consideration, thank you.
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Posted by lua 1 year ago
lua
Spiffy-Gonzalez, you clearly do not have a basic understanding of the Bible.
Posted by Spiffy-Gonzalez 1 year ago
Spiffy-Gonzalez
There are no parts of the bible which Christianity allows you to ignore, and the government has no right to force people to obey something against genuine religious belief that does not harm anyone.
Posted by What50 1 year ago
What50
God has stated multiple times having intercourse with the same gender will sent you to hell. And I agree with what is saying.
Posted by dsjpk5 1 year ago
dsjpk5
Of course, if you have the right to ignore some parts of the Bible, everyone else does to. If I don't like the ten commandments, then I can suggest churches ignore them.
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