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Should any immigrants be allowed in America?

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Started: 3/21/2013 Category: Politics
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b0rnc0nfuesed

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I think that immigrants should be allowed to enter America. They should be allowed to enter, as long as they go thorugh the proper immigration processes. After all, we all are immigrants in the long run.
Quinoas

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"They should be allowed to enter, as long as they go thorugh the proper immigration processes."

Illegal aliens come to the United States to take jobs that offer them greater opportunity, and they are often welcomed by U.S. employers who are able to hire them for wages lower than they would have to pay to hire U.S. workers. This employment is illegal under a law enacted in 1986, but some employers ignore the law and hire illegal workers in the underground economy. Others simply accept fake employment documents and hire the illegal workers as if they were legal. Because there is no requirement to verify documents presented by workers, employers can easily evade compliance.

The illegal alien workers are mostly persons who sneaked into the country " nearly all Mexicans or Central Americans who enter from Mexico. There is also, however, illegal entry across the border with Canada, with apprehensions by the Border Patrol of more than 6,000 aliens in 2010. There is also a significant portion of the illegal alien population that arrives with visas and stays illegally. These "overstayers' are estimated variously to between one- third and 40 percent of the illegal alien population.

The defenders of illegal aliens " ethnic advocacy groups, employer groups, and church-based groups " often assert that illegal aliens only take jobs unwanted by U.S. workers. This is patently false because they are working in jobs in which U.S. workers are also employed " whether in construction, agricultural harvesting or service professions.

If the hiring of illegal alien workers is prevalent in a sector of the economy, as it has become the case in seasonal crop agriculture, the willingness of foreign workers to accept lower wages because of their illegal status acts to depress wages and working conditions for all workers in that occupation. This in turn makes employment in that sector less attractive to U.S. workers who have other options. The result is a form of circular logic, i.e., the more that illegal aliens are able to take jobs in a sector of the economy, the less attractive the sector becomes to U.S. workers, and the greater appearance of validity to the lie that only illegal aliens are willing to take jobs in the sector. Only by enforcing the immigration law against employment of illegal alien workers can this spiral to the bottom be broken and employers forced to restore wages and working conditions to levels that will attract U.S. workers and legal foreign workers.
Below is a listing of the estimated number of jobs encumbered by illegal alien workers by state (and Washington, DC). The estimate is proportional to FAIR's estimate of the illegal alien population residing in each state. The listing does not include an estimate for those states that have estimated illegal alien populations of 5,000 or fewer (Maine, Montana, North and South Dakota, Vermont, W. Virginia, and Wyoming).
State Jobs Taken
Alabama 185,940
Alaska 7,140
Arizona 217,200
Arkansas 43,200
California 1,549,210
Colorado 100,555
Connecticut 89,405
DC 21,420
Delaware 24,990
Florida 505,360
Georgia 292,090
Hawaii 32,130
Idaho 16,065
Illinois 278,690
Indiana 93,470
Iowa 54,850
Kansas 49,980
Kentucky 39,665
Louisiana 64,260
Maryland 248,545
Massachusetts 69,335
Michigan 82,110
Minnesota 71,400
Mississippi 25,705
Missouri 51,410
Nebraska 28,560
Nevada 136,000
New Hampshire 10,710
New Jersey 244,945
New Mexico 75,160
New York 401,625
North Carolina 311,750
Ohio 107,995
Oklahoma 60,690
Oregon 165,075
Pennsylvania 165,240
Rhode Island 21,865
South Carolina 46,650
Tennessee 93,470
Texas 1,344,330
Utah 71,400
Virginia 163,615
Washington 239,985
Wisconsin 71,600

"After all, we all are immigrants in the long run."
That may be true but you must consider the fact that we have unemployment now back then there had more jobs than people to do them.
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