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Should caged chickens be banned?

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Started: 10/9/2015 Category: Economics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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michelleguan123

Pro

Caged chickens should be banned because it is cruel for the chickens. They don't hav e any freedom.
PointyDelta

Con

First of all, thanks to Pro for allowing me to dust off my debating skills on this site- I have been lurking for a while, but this debate has let me have a bit of a go.

REBUTTAL
'It is cruel for the chickens'
This is a baseless contentention for the following reason.

R1
We don't know whether the chickens feel pain. It's simple as that. Although Pro may state that there are studies that show that avian response to painful stimuli is similar to mammals [1], we don't KNOW whether they do. A quick search of google scholar, however, turns up only a study by Universal Poultry Concerns, a humanitarian group primarily concerned with animal rights for poultry... you can see the implications of bias here.

'They don't hav e[sic] any freedom.'

R2
Who are we to judge whether the chickens deserve freedom? This point will be carried on in my main point, but why are we even talking about giving chickens freedom? This, I feel, has not been adequately addressed by Pro thus far.

POINTS
P1
Prices and efficiency

We are a species of roughly 7.5 billion. That 7.5 billon need food. Forget about that 7.5 billion, focus on the 60.9 million people who eat poultry twice a week in Britain alone [2]. Per year, that's 6333.6 million servings of chicken. A 'serving' is an ounce,(forget about the fact that most people will have much much more) and so we have 6333.6 million ounces of chicken. We import(in Britain) 400 million birds(chicken) per year[3]. We also produce roughly 870 million birds. That is enough, at the moment, to produce enough chicken. (7620 million lb).

So what's wrong?
We produce enough UNDER THE SYSTEM OF FARMING THAT MY OPPONENT IS OBJECTING TO.
The system of farming is about three times as efficient as that of 'free-range' farming.
This translates to much, much lower prices, ensuring that ordinary people can afford to have chicken, and it isn't just a product for the rich.

P2
The general need to treat our species better than other.
We can't communicate with chickens(or indeed any other animal). [3]Until we can, we MUST do what we believe to be in the best interest of OUR species. That means that we must treat our species better. Rather than idle speculating, we need to develop a form of farming that is efficient, and still treats the animals in a way that serves both our needs and that of theirs.

Thank you Pro.

1.)http://www.upc-online.org...
2.)http://www.britishpoultry.org.uk...
3.)Obvious
Debate Round No. 1
michelleguan123

Pro

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PointyDelta

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
michelleguan123

Pro

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by BappleMan 1 year ago
BappleMan
"Caged chickens should be banned because it is cruel for the chickens. They don't hav e any freedom."

Black people used to be banned because white was superior. They didn't hav e any freedom.
They staged a campaign and were freed.

If the chickens want freedom why don't they stage a protest or something?
Posted by PointyDelta 1 year ago
PointyDelta
Good luck, Pro!
Posted by ChinkaChonka 1 year ago
ChinkaChonka
Go Pro! :)
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