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BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
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Should children be spanked?

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Started: 1/28/2018 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 months ago Status: Debating Period
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Arganger

Con

You will be arguing for spanking as a disciplinary method, and I will be arguing for such methods described by The Explosive Child by Ross W. Greene.

You may state your case first.
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2

Pro

Here is an excerpt from Time Magazine.
"NFL running back Adrian Peterson"s recent arrest for allegedly abusing his four-year-old son has once again sparked the debate over whether spanking is an appropriate form of discipline. Though some contend any form of physical correction equates to child abuse, there is a giant chasm between a mild spanking properly administered out of love and an out-of-control adult venting their emotions by physically abusing a child.

At Focus on the Family we believe that parents have been entrusted with the incredible privilege and responsibility of shaping their children"s behavior in a positive direction. Unfortunately, each of us enters this world with desires that are selfish, unkind, and harmful to others and ourselves. Spanking, then, can be one effective discipline option among several in a parents" tool chest as they seek to steer their children away from negative behaviors and guide them toward ultimately becoming responsible, healthy, happy adults. It is vital, however, that spanking be administered within proper guidelines. The reports about the punishment meted out by Peterson to his son, and the consequent injuries his son suffered, indicate his behavior on that occasion was far outside those boundaries. These kinds of experiences are why this whole issue is fraught with controversy " a child should never be abused.

Properly understood and administered, spanking is most effective as a deterrent to undesirable behavior for younger preschoolers (but never for infants). That"s because reasoning and taking away privileges often simply don"t work with kids in that age range. As children age, spanking should become even less frequent as other types of consequences are utilized. Spanking should be phased out completely before adolescence.

Generally speaking, we advise parents that corporal discipline should only be applied in cases of willful disobedience or defiance of authority"never for mere childish irresponsibility. And it should never be administered harshly, impulsively, or with the potential to cause physical harm. Along those lines, we caution parents who have a hard time controlling their temper to choose alternative forms of discipline. There is never an excuse or an occasion to abuse a child.

For parents who do choose to spank, the proper philosophy and approach is extremely important. Too begin with, as with all forms of correction, the concepts of punishment and discipline are absolute opposites. Punishment is motivated by anger, focuses on the past, and results in either compliance (due to fear) or rebellion and feelings of shame, guilt and/or hostility. On the other hand, discipline is motivated by love for the child, focuses on the future, and results in obedience and feelings of security." [1]

Source (s):
[1] http://time.com...
Debate Round No. 1
Arganger

Con

The Explosive Child by Ross W. Greene, suggests that both the parent and child work together as a team. Instead of the parents being the only people finding the problems, and solutions.

For instance more traditional parenting would say;

Child refuses to do homework.

Parent looks at the situation and decides that the child is being lazy.

Parent doesn't let child do anything until homework is done.

In the methods described by this book;

Child refuses to do homework.

Parent asks the child why he hasn't been doing homework.

They collectively work to find a solution that works for both of them.

This method is about communication between everyone involved, trust, respect, support and a healthy relationship between parent and child. Parents listen to their kids instead of making assumptions.

This method has several benefits above spanking.
  • It helps children learn about and practice healthy relationships that are not one sided.
  • It helps children feel validated and listened to.
  • Parents don't have to inflict pain on the child.
  • It helps the parents learn about their child's individual needs.
  • Children are less likely to shut down over it.

This method was developed after years of research to be used specifically for children that traditional methods do not work on, but can be and is meant to be, applied to almost any child.

It was built for children that respond to traditional methods by, shutting down, getting angry, hitting, crying, fits of anxiety, stubbornness or other challenging behaviour.

More specifically, ADHD, bipolar disorder, oppositional definat disorder, anxiety disorders, autistic kids, reactove attachment disorder, conduct disorder, mood disorder, or the like.

https://www.livesinthebalance.org...

Spanking isn't abusive, but it is in the end unnecessary and something that no parent wants to do anyway. (Unless they really shouldn't)
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2

Pro

Let me reinstate my argument.

Here is an excerpt from Time Magazine.
"NFL running back Adrian Peterson"s recent arrest for allegedly abusing his four-year-old son has once again sparked the debate over whether spanking is an appropriate form of discipline. Though some contend any form of physical correction equates to child abuse, there is a giant chasm between a mild spanking properly administered out of love and an out-of-control adult venting their emotions by physically abusing a child.

At Focus on the Family we believe that parents have been entrusted with the incredible privilege and responsibility of shaping their children"s behavior in a positive direction. Unfortunately, each of us enters this world with desires that are selfish, unkind, and harmful to others and ourselves. Spanking, then, can be one effective discipline option among several in a parents" tool chest as they seek to steer their children away from negative behaviors and guide them toward ultimately becoming responsible, healthy, happy adults. It is vital, however, that spanking be administered within proper guidelines. The reports about the punishment meted out by Peterson to his son, and the consequent injuries his son suffered, indicate his behavior on that occasion was far outside those boundaries. These kinds of experiences are why this whole issue is fraught with controversy " a child should never be abused.

Properly understood and administered, spanking is most effective as a deterrent to undesirable behavior for younger preschoolers (but never for infants). That"s because reasoning and taking away privileges often simply don"t work with kids in that age range. As children age, spanking should become even less frequent as other types of consequences are utilized. Spanking should be phased out completely before adolescence.

Generally speaking, we advise parents that corporal discipline should only be applied in cases of willful disobedience or defiance of authority"never for mere childish irresponsibility. And it should never be administered harshly, impulsively, or with the potential to cause physical harm. Along those lines, we caution parents who have a hard time controlling their temper to choose alternative forms of discipline. There is never an excuse or an occasion to abuse a child.

For parents who do choose to spank, the proper philosophy and approach is extremely important. Too begin with, as with all forms of correction, the concepts of punishment and discipline are absolute opposites. Punishment is motivated by anger, focuses on the past, and results in either compliance (due to fear) or rebellion and feelings of shame, guilt and/or hostility. On the other hand, discipline is motivated by love for the child, focuses on the future, and results in obedience and feelings of security." [1]

Source:
[1] http://time.com...
Debate Round No. 2
Arganger

Con

The method I am suggesting, Collaborative & Proactive Solutions, Seems to be much better overall, and by far more mutually beneficial then spanking.

I do wish you made a new argument, but you didn't, so I will just add more reasons that CPS is a better method than spanking.

Links to studies showing CPS's effectiveness:
https://www.livesinthebalance.org...

https://link.springer.com...

https://www.livesinthebalance.org...

https://www.livesinthebalance.org...

More can be found here:

https://www.livesinthebalance.org...

Links to studies showing problems with spanking:
http://www.apa.org...

"Many studies have shown that physical punishment — including spanking, hitting and other means of causing pain — can lead to increased aggression, antisocial behavior, physical injury and mental health problems for children. Americans’ acceptance of physical punishment has declined since the 1960s, yet surveys show that two-thirds of Americans still approve of parents spanking their kids."

https://www.scientificamerican.com...

"Still, a number of individual studies have found associations between spanking and negative outcomes, even after controlling for preexisting child behavior. So Gershoff says that in spite of the lingering controversy, the safest approach parents can take is not to spank their kids."

In conclusion;

Spanking has been associated with many issues later in life and isn't worth the risk. CPS on the other hand, puts in place a well researched method that teaches children the skills they need, is compassionate, requires no harm to the child, and is proactive. Addressing the problems before they happen in a way that benefits everyone.
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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Arganger 5 months ago
Arganger
At least do so by saying it in your last round.
Posted by BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 5 months ago
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
Forfeit
Posted by Arganger 5 months ago
Arganger
delphinium it's a parenting book for a method developed though years of research for kids with; Autism, ADHD, ODD, Conduct disorder, Bipolar disorder , Attachment disorder and other difficult categories. It is also meant as a tool for kids in general, but is molded specifically for kids with differences.
Posted by delphinium 5 months ago
delphinium
What do you mean by an "explosive child"?
Posted by BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2 5 months ago
BryanMullinsNOCHRISTMAS2
The explosive child, nah. How about Time magazine, Arganger.
Posted by Arganger 5 months ago
Arganger
Okay.
Posted by delphinium 5 months ago
delphinium
ow, sorry.
Can we stop arguing? Truce?
Posted by Arganger 5 months ago
Arganger
I forgot to add, the younger sister also has gastroparesis.
Posted by Arganger 5 months ago
Arganger
I have a service dog because I'm autistic. I also have , OCD, PTSD, anxiety, Essential tremor,executive dysfunction, dyspraxia, particularly extreme SPD, I have motor delays and balance problems, my depth perception is off, I have memory problems and face blindness, and so much more!

My oldest sister has severe ADHD, bipolar disorder, drug addiction, and anxiety.

My other sister has sensory processing disorder and (Bad) anxiety.

My brother has anxiety.

My dad is dead.
Posted by delphinium 5 months ago
delphinium
first of all, you spelled "oppositional defiant disorder" wrong. Second, I have APD and ADHD. Third, my sister, the one who is in college that currently has an associates degree by 18, has a service dog because of a server allergy that has caused her to be paranoid about dying from being in the same room as the contaminate. And fourth of all my family whole has ADHD.
PS the service dog has Addison's disease.
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