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Should college athletes be paid? Why or why not.

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Started: 4/10/2014 Category: Sports
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Annawojtko

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Should college athletes be paid? Why or why not.
MAVSWILL42

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Yes, college athletes should be paid, the reason for this being is that not all college athletes receive full ride scholarships. If the athletes were to be paid they would be able to pay for tuition, books and supplies, and other necessities that they need like the cost of room and board and meals plans as well. Not only that, but the college makes millions and millions of dollars of off the athletes, why not share the love a bit. So in conclusion college athletes should be paid
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Posted by mmadderom 2 years ago
mmadderom
"The money doesn't just go to support other sports, it also goes to NCAA executives and coaches, many of whom are multi-millionaires. "

Yep. And what is wrong with that exactly? Those people ARE professionals.

"Meanwhile the majority of students being exploited"

Asinine comment. No athlete is 'exploited'. The majority of those kids wouldn't be able to go to school without that scholarship. The kids not on scholarship aren't the ones who make the sport popular, hence bringing in the money.

"all of this money are not allowed to see a penny of it"

The notion that College kids are 'exploited' is incredibly short sighted. Not a single one of those kids is forced to play their sport. Not one. The top kids get scholarships worth tens of thousands of dollars a year simply for playing a sport. They could instead forgo College and flip burgers at McD's for $8/hr. then they wouldn't be 'exploited'...

USA Today investigated the 'exploitation' nonsense:

"but a USA TODAY analysis has determined that a typical player for a program receives at least $120,000 annually in goods, services and future earnings for his athletic work."

$120k/yr in compensation for an 18-20 year old kid is 'exploitation'? That's not all!

"But more than scholarships, players receive benefits including: elite coaching; academic counseling; strength and conditioning consulting; media relations assistance; medical insurance and treatment; free game tickets; and future earnings power that comes with some college education.

There also are incalculable perks not included in USA TODAY's $120,000 figure, most notably the regional and national exposure players receive that typical students don't. "

Exploited? Hardly. When you consider the true value of everything a student athlete receives, they are OVER paid.
Posted by mmadderom 2 years ago
mmadderom
"The money doesn't just go to support other sports, it also goes to NCAA executives and coaches, many of whom are multi-millionaires. "

Yep. And what is wrong with that exactly? Those people ARE professionals.

"Meanwhile the majority of students being exploited"

Asinine comment. No athlete is 'exploited'. The majority of those kids wouldn't be able to go to school without that scholarship. The kids not on scholarship aren't the ones who make the sport popular, hence bringing in the money.

"all of this money are not allowed to see a penny of it"

The top athletes IN ALL SPORTS are getting full ride scholarships worth $40k+/YR. That's HUGE. The vast majority of them ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH to play professionally so the compensation they receive in form of education is a huge deal. What did those same kids get paid to play in High School? It's not a valid argument.

These kids are also getting a LOT more than just a scholarship. They are getting professional instruction in their given sport, which can't be overstated if they have a desire to become professionals. Should the coaches charge the students for the professional training and tutelage they receive?

The notion that College kids are 'exploited' is incredibly short sighted. Not a single one of those kids is forced to play their sport. Not one. The top kids get scholarships worth tens of thousands of dollars a year simply for playing a sport. They could instead forgo College and flip burgers at McD's for $8/hr. then they wouldn't be 'exploited'...

Basketball players only have to play 1 year in College then they are free to join the NBA if they're good enough. Football players have to stay 2 years. But it takes that long to get their bodies to level it needs to be to play professionally.

Finally, who gets paid what? Does the QB get more than the kicker? Does the men's point guard get more than the woman's point guard? How about the lacrosse team? Cheer leaders? The Band? Just think of all
Posted by Saska 2 years ago
Saska
The money doesn't just go to support other sports, it also goes to NCAA executives and coaches, many of whom are multi-millionaires. Meanwhile the majority of students being exploited for all of this money are not allowed to see a penny of it, unless it gets worked into a scholarship, which not all athletes get.
Posted by mmadderom 2 years ago
mmadderom
"I think something needs to be done with the absurd amount of money that is made by the NCAA off of college football and basketball "

That 'absurd amount of money' pays for ALL sports at the school. ONLY Football and Basketball make money at most schools. All other sports lose money. Football and Basketball support those money losing sports, cheer leading squads, bands, etc including all the scholarship athletes in those sports.

If you make it about the money, then every sport will go away except football and mens basketball.
Posted by merchantwelling11 2 years ago
merchantwelling11
Rather than being paid, the athletes should receive discounts on enrollment fees, such as scholarships, rather than giving the money straight to the player.
Posted by Saska 2 years ago
Saska
I think something needs to be done with the absurd amount of money that is made by the NCAA off of college football and basketball (and the other college sports, these two are just the most prominent examples). I don't know if outright paying the players is the right way to do it, but maybe something in the way of a savings bond for players that can be collected upon graduation, or at least having more money going back to the institutions so that the money can help students, rather than it just going into the pockets of the NCAA executives and the college coaches, who can make several million dollars per year. The issue isn't that the kids deserve to be paid, the issue is that the NCAA is exploiting their skills for billions of dollars and the kids see nothing of that profit.
Posted by mmadderom 2 years ago
mmadderom
The other argument is that MOST kids will NEVER become professional athletes. They just aren't good enough. So why would you make them 'professionals' by paying them when they could NOT go out in the real world and get that same job for pay?
Posted by mmadderom 2 years ago
mmadderom
Of course not. The minute College athletes are paid is the minute they stop being amateurs. The definition of professional is that you're a paid for what you do. If that's the case, simply give them the option of going pro and get rid of the silly rules that mandate they spend X amount of time in College first.

Be careful what you wish for, athletes! If you are deemed 'employees' as many want then ALL compensation becomes TAXABLE. That means, that you will PAY TAXES ON the value of your scholarship including room and board, meals, etc. Not just on the cash payout. Sorry, that's how it works. So if the school gives you, say, $10k/yr to play on top of your full ride, you are going to be taxed on $50-100K of income. That $10k isn't even going to cover your tax burden. And that's for TOP athletes. What about walk ons and non-scholarship kids?

Understand right now that no College is going to 'pay' athletes. Their compensation comes in other forms. Once the athlete is considered an employee, they pay taxes. Period. So your $40,000/yr worth of full ride scholarship is now taxable.

Now, aside from Football and Basketball, Colleges LOSE money on sports. That's just a fact. So is a Lacrosse player supposed to get paid? Volleyball player? The argument for paying athletes is that the schools make money so the student should get a cut. Problem with that is MOST sports LOSE money. It is only mens football and basketball that makes money at most schools. That money is used to fund the money LOSING sports. How do you justify paying a football player but not a wrestler? If schools are forced to pay all athletes, wrestling is going to go away. Ditto ALL women's sports and all non-income producing sports. You think this is a good thing?
Posted by AMcCormack21 2 years ago
AMcCormack21
I believe not because they are recieving an education. They do not play sports as employees yet and for many it is for fun. Although the schools generate income off these sports, the players are the same as high school players, it is a game meant for fun. Once the athlete reaches professional level is when they should be paid
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