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mrouse
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The Contender
Pennington
Con (against)
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34 Points

Should extra steps be taken to remove religious influence in the U.S. government?

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Pennington
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/20/2013 Category: Religion
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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mrouse

Pro

Extra steps should be taken to ensure that the first amendment is still applied to the government. Religious influence on bills, laws, etc are not able to satisfy everyone's needs/wants. No religious influence on bills, laws, etc would provide an overall neutral (not swayed) government. It would allow actions to be applicable to all, not in favor of the religious or non-religious.
Pennington

Con

I am curious to see how one would argue that extra steps should be taken to remove religious influence in the U.S. government.

BOP:
My opponent as the instigator has the BOP completely on him. Therefore, it is to be assumed that the government is non-religious unless shown otherwise.

Definitions:
Religious- relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity. http://www.merriam-webster.com...

1st Amendment- The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. http://en.wikipedia.org...

Bills- a written document or note. http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Laws- a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority. http://www.merriam-webster.com...

Extra steps- Doing more than just "expected performance." http://www.dierbergs.com...

U.S. government- The government of the United States of America is the federal government of the constitutional republic of fifty states that constitute the United States, as well as one capitol district, and several other territories. http://en.wikipedia.org...

I accept and await Pro's argument.
Debate Round No. 1
mrouse

Pro

mrouse forfeited this round.
Pennington

Con

It is discouraging that my opponent forfeited. I will provide a little argument never the less.


Separation:


The freedom of religion has been a central practice of America.[1] It was placed into the very First Amendment in the Constitution along with another fundamental right as freedom of speech. Also in order to make sure these rights did not infringe on everyone else's they also mandated the separation of church and state.[3]


It is true that America is one of the most religions nations in the world. This is not because of the government but the choice of the people. Religion is free from governmental control or connection.


Imposing:


I think it is also ridiculous by opponent to suggest that religion is imposed on people. It is a weak argument to claim that because you live in one of the most religious nations in the world, (minus government enforcement in that religious choice) religion is imposed upon people.[2] There is not any case of Americans enforcing their religion on someone that I know of. Without the religious many public, private, foreign, domestic and military charities and events would not take place.[4] Religion has been and is supported by the public, not the government.


What You Can Do:


Religion is one of the best ways for people to protect their constitutional right. So is going to school and becoming educated to not become coerced by religion. It is illegal for the government to give any aide to such religious organizations. If you think you have been violated by religion and that the first amendment has failed you think you should contact you local ADL Regional offices.


Conclusion:


It is clear that any religious criminal entities should be arrested and fined. We should not allow religious entities to decide our governmental policies. This is all laid in our constitution and is to this day a law so there is no argument by my opponent. The argument is a problem of societal religion. Resolution negated!


Back to Pro.


Sources:


[1]


http://archive.adl.org...


[2] http://atheism.about.com...


[3] http://www.law.cornell.edu...


[4] http://en.wikipedia.org...

Debate Round No. 2
mrouse

Pro

mrouse forfeited this round.
Pennington

Con

I extend all my arguments and request conduct points. Thanks.
Debate Round No. 3
mrouse

Pro

mrouse forfeited this round.
Pennington

Con

I extend my argument and ask for more points.
Debate Round No. 4
mrouse

Pro

mrouse forfeited this round.
Pennington

Con

Pro has conceded and forfeited every round. I request all votes. Thank to all.
Debate Round No. 5
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