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RuneKyton
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RandRichter
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Should felons who have completed their sentence be allowed to vote?

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Started: 4/21/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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RuneKyton

Con

Felons should not have the right to vote in legal matters, simply because they already demonstrated poor judgment by doing whatever it is they did. Why should we entrust the future of our nation to the hands of those who have only hindered it?

Many will say, "Everyone deserves a vote.", which in my opinion is not true. The right to vote is a privilege meant for the citizens who have control over their judgment. That privilege should be taken away from anyone who has demonstrated poor judgment in the past.

That said, I conclude that felons should not have the right to vote, even after they have served their time and sentences.
RandRichter

Pro

You truly have only two separate arguments to defend here.
1.A felon should not be able to vote because they have displayed poor judgement.
2.Someone who has displayed poor judgement should not be able to vote.

Firstly you are assuming all felons have shown poor judgement. In the case of a mother who post dated a $70 check, lost her job, as months went by the check bounced. You could easily say assuming the money would be there, or her inability to for see the recession and her inability to pay was a clear showing of poor judgment. Perhaps so. It was a felony offense. But to what degree?
Exactly to what degree of poor judgment do you need to show in order to be exiled from our democracy. Any member of the KKK who's judgement I assume you find to be worse are still afforded this opportunity. Along with holocaust deniers, and people who have no idea who the prospective candidates may be. It is a very easy task on my part to show that someone with a felony may have no lack in control over their judgment. For you I am afraid that position is completely untenable.

The second leg of your proposition is that people with poor judgement should not be able to vote. In a perfect world every citizen and possible voter would be well informed, living happy mistake free lives. This is obviously not the case. I would propose that the idea of disqualifying any group from participating in our democracy not only robs the results of of a true reflection of the populous who are governed. But it also automatically disenfranchises all excluded. For the concept of democracy to work all who are governed by it and especially pay taxes are entitled to their part. Especially when in our country where the rate of incarceration is so high, ex cons being disallowed from voting has the un intended consequences but direct of keeping in the cycle of incarceration.

Our nation doesn't have worse people than other countries, but acts that were felonies 5 years ago that today aren't even criminal act shows just how arbitrary and ridiculous using the metric of a felony conviction.
The debate if anything should be if current felony inmates should be able to vote because they make up such a large part of the population. My reason why they shouldn't is if they do not pay taxes. After that they are just an American who made a mistake possibly unrelated to judgement, and completely irrelevant to voting.

In closing please respond to this challenge:
I prepose in order to prove your point you must first supply data that substantiates your claims that felons have worse judgement than non felons, and that somehow that metric used to prove that they do have worse judgement relates to an inability to properly vote.

As well as the small hurdle that is, no matter poor a citizens judgement, the money in there bank, or the most radical or centrist of ideas they have, they have a part to play. As a member of a democratic society, they have a right to representation. And taxation without such is criminal in of itself.
Debate Round No. 1
RuneKyton

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Posted by Conortheconor 1 year ago
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Can't contend with that👏
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