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livvyrose
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Raumulus
Con (against)

Should girls be allowed to play sports with boys if there is not a team equivalent for them?

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Started: 12/12/2017 Category: Miscellaneous
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livvyrose

Pro

Girls should be allowed to play sports with boys no matter what even if they have disabilities. Just because people say that girls are not as strong as boys they are wrong because we are either as strong or stronger than them.
Raumulus

Con

CONTRA LIVVYROSE,

Quite an interesting topic! I must also commend your fighting spirit!

Unfortunately, I think you will find there is no reasonable way to argue that on the whole, the female of our species is stronger than the male. Because we are talking about sports specifically, I should assume you mean strength of physique. Now clearly, there are individual females who possess more strength than individual males. What should also be clear, is that the universal form of the male possesses more physical strength than the female.
There are several ways we can go about judging this, I'd say perhaps the best being by average muscle mass, and performance records. For the muscle mass, here's and excerpt from the US National Library of Medicine that says it fairly well: "The women were approximately 52% and 66% as strong as the men in the upper and lower body respectively. The men were also stronger relative to lean body mass," [1]. Now of course, strength is not the only cause of a victor, most sports are a marriage of strength and technique.
Now it should be established, that a race is the best form of contest through which the compare the natural physical abilities of the two sexes, as it depends much more on physique than technique. The Israeli physicist Ira Hammerman demonstrated that across all types of racing, female athletes can only attain 90 per cent the speed of their male counterparts, [2]. It is harder in other sports to compare records, because mainly each is competing against members of their own sex, but one can see how the physical differences between men and women can lend advantage in various sports.
This, however, does not directly address your assertion. You made a claim about "boys," and "girls." Human sexual dimorphism is very slight at birth, and comes into actuality mostly around puberty, as we all know. Before boys become men, and girls become women, I am willing to concede that they are able to compete with some fairness. This really seems beside your argument, however, considering that you've said that "Girls should be allowed to play sports with boys no matter what even if they have disabilities." Your choice of words "no matter what," seems to imply that you think competing in a game is somehow a human right, and that it would be unjust to deny them competition. This is of course not the case. Games are established, and who is or is not allowed to compete is the edict of the game-master. So the question then is not who must be allowed to play, but who should be allowed in order to result in the best game. With that in mind, one can see how it is best for males and females to compete separately. The basis of any game is a balance in the contest. The more balanced the contenders are in physique/technique, the better the game is. This is of course why the World Series Champions don't play with your hometown little league runner-ups.

In sports, it is better for males and females to compete separately, for a more even match-up, and therefore a better game.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

[2] https://www.theatlantic.com...
Debate Round No. 1
livvyrose

Pro

One you have to realize that I am only a freshman in high school and for my English class I have a prompt asking "Should girls be allowed to play sports with boys if there is not a team equivalent for them?" So I am trying to argue that girls are just as strong or even stronger than boys in some sports because there are some women who wrestle even against men not just their own sex. So it does not matter what sex they or what kind of physique that they have or any of that it is just that girls are just as good as sports as boys are even if they have to work harder for them.
Raumulus

Con

I'm glad to be of help brainstorming for your prompt, however, we've got to be reasonable about this. You want to argue that "girls are just as strong or even stronger than boys in some sports," with the reason given "because there are some women who wrestle even against men not just their own sex."
There's simply no way to make the jump from your claim about particulars, that some women are stronger than or as strong as some men, to the universal claim that women on the whole are stronger than or as strong as men on the whole.
On the contrary, I've provided a few reasons to say that on the whole, men are stronger than women.
So then, you are forced to make one of two arguments: that despite being generally weaker, all women should be allowed to compete with men regardless, or that the exceptional women who are as strong as or stronger than most men, should be allowed to compete with men, despite women generally not being allowed to.

To bottom line being: you cannot build an argument resting on the fact that women generally are as strong as or stronger than men generally, because this simply is not true.
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