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Should guns be legal

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Started: 2/9/2015 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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debater12332

Pro

I would like to debate on whether guns should be legal or not.

My stance is that guns should be legal.
Locke92

Con

i accept the challenge. please provide the context.
Debate Round No. 1
debater12332

Pro

Guns are our constitutional right and have protected innocent people time and time again.
Also cities with guns are safer so why try to take them away?
Locke92

Con

1. rules are made to maintain order, and it can be changed based on a situation. if there's chaos or disorder created by the rule, the rule can be revised even if it is a constitution. now, due to guns possession, citizens tend to use guns even for small or minor conflict. it is true, maybe at first they use it for self defense, but as time passes their intention has changed. and their role has been shifted from defender to attacker.

2. most countries where guns are allowed have more crimes than those who don't. Brazil, Africa, and America are the perfect example of this. how come? because the criminals know that the citizens have guns, thus they have to have more guns. guns possession does not ensure safety. the criminals use more advanced type of guns which are more dangerous while the government only allow his citizen to posses a standard gun.
Debate Round No. 2
debater12332

Pro

Actually a Harvard study shows that countries with gun ban have higher crime.
Russia has 4 times the crime as the USA and has very strict gun control.
Norway, Finland, Germany, and France have low murder rates. Luxembourg has a total handgun ban has a murder rate 9 times higher than Germany.

Criminals always get their hands on guns,the only thing banning guns does is stop law abiding citizens from getting them. The criminals still use guns so what does this solve?

You said that rules were meant to maintain order and could be change.
The constitution was made to protect human rights.

Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither.
-Benjamin Franklin
Locke92

Con

firstly, a true law-abiding citizen would know how to make a law measure to solve a problem. acting as a vigilante with a murderous weapon while the police is there is surely not what a law-abiding citizen would do.

secondly, having more guns will not solve any problem either, and if anything, will only create more chaos and disorder. there is no guarantee that these so called 'law-abiding citizens' will stay sane while they know that they live in a country where everyone has a gun concealed behind their back and the criminals run amok with more murderous type of guns which overpower the citizens'. even though there is a regulation to make sure that only sane person can have a gun, it will only nullify the first objective; that everyone, without exception, should be armed with guns to be able to protect themselves. now it is clear that allowing ALL citizens to have guns is wrong, and restricting the rules will only result in some people do not have a gun and cannot protect themselves.
Debate Round No. 3
debater12332

Pro

firstly, a true law-abiding citizen would know how to make a law measure to solve a problem. acting as a vigilante with a murderous weapon while the police is there is surely not what a law-abiding citizen would do.'

This statement was not based on facts.
In almost every case a citizen only uses weapons when the police were not there.

Secondly,you are just giving your opinion. There is no evidence to back you.
Guns have saved innocent lives countless times.

'Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence...from the hour the pilgrims landed to present day,events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable...the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil. - George Washington
Locke92

Con

1. i will make it clear that i do not use facts and statistical data because i believe that there is something more than plain facts. moreover, just because one fact stands over all, does not mean we should ignore the rest of the truth right?

2. i understand that a need for a weapon is indispensable, but i see that you failed to tell me why it should be gun? because the criminals have guns? how exactly do you fight with a gun? in most cases, the attacker is the one who is more ready to shoot, because crime always take place in ambush scenario. when the gun is pointed at you, while your gun is somewhere in your cabinet, securely locked so your children cant reach it, or somewhere in your underwear to conceal it, and the moment you want to take it out, the criminal has already planted the bullet inside your brain. BOOM!! no self defense. SURPRISE!!!

thirdly, the best option is surely to enforce the law and security, heavier punishment for crimes which involve gun will work too.
Debate Round No. 4
debater12332

Pro

debater12332 forfeited this round.
Locke92

Con

Oh no......
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by debater12332 1 year ago
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