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Should have Socrates drunk the hemlock?

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Started: 2/26/2013 Category: Philosophy
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animwiafek

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Socrates has become renowned for his contribution to the field of ethics even though he wasn't seen highly of in his days; which did not matter to him. He was not ashamed or scared of what he was pursuing in life; knowing it was likely to bring him to an ultimate end. Socrates made a good choice to drink the Hemlock. First of all, one of his saying was to die honorably or justfully than to live unjustly. So refusing to drink the hemlock will mean automatically going against his words.
Moreover, he had the chance to flee Athens if he felt their laws were unjust but he didn't; so by choosing not to leave Athens he agreed to be under the city law. I also agree with him that, we have all not experience death before so it will make no sense to fear what we don"t know; so by not drinking the hemlock will make no sense if he really wants to prove a point. We might have different reasons if he should have or shouldn't have drunk the hemlock; but the bottom line is he stood his grounds.
dorinda.asante

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Socrates should not have drunk the hemlock. Men are supposed to be the head of a family; they are supposed to be the glue that keeps family together and when that is no longer there a family is often left with a hole that can never be filled. As a husband and a father, Socrates drinking the hemlock and causing his untimely death was cowardly. He left behind his wife and his children; his family was left with the pain of his coward act.
Kofi stated in his argument that Socrates felt that the laws of Athens were not unjust that is why he chose not to leave Athens; this statement is not true because Socrates believed the laws were unjust. He was able to prove Meletus and the court by asking them what justice law was, in which Meletus said justice was doing right in the interest in the stronger party. Since Meletus and all his fellow leaders are not perfect and have done wrong before in their life proves that they are not the stronger party. This then makes their laws unjust, which Socrates" knew but wanted them to know whether they knew it too. Although he knew the laws were unjust he still wanted to be true to it because he had fought to uphold those laws. As a citizen of Athens and he wanted to obey the law whether he agreed with it or not.
Socrates" was so fascinated on being courageous that it caused him his life. A man is supposed to be there for his family no matter what, instead of trying to escape his death he chose to die to prove to the world that he is a no body and is not afraid of dying. He should have fled Athens and went to a different location, going to a different place would have proven to all of Athens that he was not teaching unorthodox teaching of the gods and did not care if any one believed him or not. Choosing to die proved the court and his enemies that he was breaking the law and deserved to die. His enemies most likely did not care whether he was proved the court wrong before his death. All they probably cared about was that Socrates" was found guilty of unorthodox teaching of the gods and killed over it. The court could have twisted what happened in the court room and disgrace his name afterwards. Socartes in the court room proved all the accusations against him were false by proving it. First he proved that he was not breaking the law and that he did believe in god because Meletus acknowledged the fact that he had a demigod following him around (Plato, Par. 21). He won his case but was not alive to say his part of the story. He made his accusers drive him to his grave and at the end his death proved nothing to them other than him just being another ghost.
Also Socrates" left behind his wife and sons, his family was left to face the world afterwards. A world that believed he was killed for being guilty; one could only imagine the torment they went through after his death. He should have considered them more before he decided to drink the hemlock. Socrates" was an intelligent man that could have lived a longer life and educate more people, instead he decided to end his own life. He was one of the few people that had being able to escape from a hole that had people chained on walls from preventing them from seeing what was on the other side. Even though he goes back into the hole to get chained people like Plato and Xenophon out and educate them on what he saw he decided to die. His death not only caused more people to be in chain in the hole but for people to fear getting out of the hole. These are people that already are fearful of getting out of the hole and after seeing Socrates" die for what he believed in would make them continue to live an oppressed life just to stay alive. Had he flee to a different place, he would have still have his believes and continue getting more people out of the hole. This is the beauty of being alive, one could have his or her name tarnish but his mind and ideas would remain untouchable.
Socrates" was against Sophist for what they were doing. He did not like the fact that they put themselves on a high pedestal. His death allowed Sophists to continue doing all the idiotic things that they were doing. They were teaching people how to debate, thinking of themselves as being somebody when they weren"t, and thinking that they were intelligent when they were not by any means.
Meletus and Anytus wanted to punish Socrates from the time he entered the court until the time he died. They were strongly against him teaching inappropriate believes of the god. With Socrates" death they were able to get him to be silent once and for all. They would not have to worry about young people being corrupted, this will then make young people obey them more and follow the laws as well. Socrates committing suicide gave his enemy what they wanted. For Meletus, Anytus and others like them everything is all about power and showing people that they have the power and everyone would have to be in line if they want to avoid exile or death. Socrates" was one the person that could dispute with these people and annoyed them with his knowledge. But the moment he drank the hemlock he made them feel powerful again. They went to their homes afterwards thinking they were right about their accusations all along. He should not have given his enemies the power to think they were right whiles they were not. He should have chosen exile and irritate more people like them in his next location.
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