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Damian127
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BobTurner
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Should highschool seniors have an exit exam to graduate

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BobTurner
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/12/2014 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Damian127

Con

Seniors should not have an exit exam because it will hold back the students who struggle during the school year
BobTurner

Pro

First of all, seniors do not have to take an exist exam -- or at least I didn't have to take one when I graduaed a few years back.

But anyway, seniors should have to take one. Your argument is largely invalid, because the intention is that it will hold people back who shouldn't move on and who are struggling. If you aren't proficient in math, english, et al. why should you move onto college? You're going to struggle even more than you already did. The same goes for a student who wants to enter the labor force.
Debate Round No. 1
Damian127

Con

For example In Arizona every High school student need to pass (AIMS) Arizona Instrument of Measuring Standards.Which in lack of a better term, an exit exam and I believe every high school have some form of this.
In today's workforce a high school diploma in necessary to get even the most mundane jobs out there so by holding these below average students back (students who can't pass the exam) we are hurting our future more than helping it.
BobTurner

Pro

I'm not familiar with the Arizona system, but I'll take your word for it. I know for a fact that this doesn't apply to every high school because I attended a private high school and didn't have to take an exit exam.

Also, it's untrue that a high school diploma is needed for every mundane job. I know plenty of people who dropped out of high school and went to a trade school, and are perfectly happy with their lives. The fact of the matter is, a high school diploma isn't necessary, but if you're going to have one and use it wisely, you should pass a certain proficiency standard and there is no problem with a school wanted to gauge this before graduating a student.
Debate Round No. 2
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Vote Placed by Zarroette 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro showed that the exams are working, especially if they are holding back students who are doing poorly. Con completely dropped Pro's counter-response. Con then continued to argue that people have to get degrees for mundane jobs, which Pro denied. The first contention, which went to Pro, was enough to win this debate.
Vote Placed by Ragnar 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro easily took this with the simple point about how fake graduating lesser students, would only hurt them worse. I was rather suprised he did not rinse and repeat this to the "In today's workforce a high school diploma in necessary" bit, as someone not knowing basic math and English, would suffer even worse in the workforce than in mere college (besides, people with doctorates are hardly ever unemployed, so why not just hand those out like candy to everyone unemployed? Rhetorical question).
Vote Placed by Cooldudebro 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro won because he was resonable and made sense.