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Should marijuana be legal or illegal

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/29/2014 Category: Health
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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nelson420

Pro

Marijuana is one of the best found drugs in the world its the best thing that God has ever made .Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
notyourbusiness

Con

I thank Pro for instigating this debate, and I will now be proving why marijuana should be illegal.

1. Marijuana affects mental health
A recent Northwestern University study found that marijuana users have abnormal brain structure and poor memory, and that chronic marijuana abuse may lead to brain changes resembling schizophrenia. Cannabis use is associated with poor outcomes in existing psychosis and is a risk factor for developing psychosis. Meta-analyses have noted a doubling of the risk of psychotic outcomes in regular cannabis users, and earlier onset (by 2.7 years) among cannabis users who develop psychosis. There is increasing evidence that the association between cannabis and onset of psychosis is not due to other co-occurring factors. The most plausible view is that cannabis use is a "contributory cause" of psychosis in vulnerable individuals, and that it is one of a number of potential factors that can bring on psychosis (including genetic predisposition).

2. Marijuana affects physical health
Marijuana leads to impaired: balance, reaction time, information processing, memory retention and retrieval, and perceptual-motor coordination. It also leads to hallucinations and changed perceptions of time, sound, colour, distance, touch and other sensations, as well aspanic reactions; vomiting; loss of consciousness; as well as restlessness and confusion. It also causes deficits in verbal learning, memory and attention. Marijuana is extremely harmful to health.

It is also a known fact that cannabis smoke contains many carcinogens. Researchers in Canada also report that "ammonia levels were 20 times higher in the marijuana smoke than in the tobacco smoke, while hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide and certain aromatic amines occurred at levels 3-5 times higher in the marijuana smoke".

The negative effects of marijuana are so serious that the American Medical Association said that "cannabis is a dangerous drug and as such is a public health concern.", opposing marijuana legalisation. When even medical experts and researchers take such a stance, who are we to deny the harmfulness of marijuana?

3. Marijuana has a large and negative impact on people's lives
A study of 129 college students found that, among those who smoked the drug at least twenty-seven of the thirty days before being surveyed, critical skills related to attention, memory and learning were seriously diminished. A study of postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana had 55% more accidents, 85% more injuries and a 75% increase in being absent from work. In Australia, a study found that cannabis intoxication was responsible for 4.3% of driver fatalities.
Students who use marijuana have lower grades and are less likely to get into college than nonsmokers. They do not have the same abilities to remember and organize information compared to those who do not use these substances due to consumption of marijuana.

Recent studies out of Australia and New Zealand analyzed data on close to 4,000 people, comparing those who had used pot with those who had not, and the results were staggering. Researchers found that frequent pot use by teens is linked to a greater likelihood of incomplete education, suicide attempts, and damage to brain development. In addition, they found that certain cognitive functions can suffer permanent damage as a result of frequent use.

4. Economic costs
Marijuana users are a factor in healthcare costs, which are paid for by taxpayers. With the legalisation of marijuana, there would be more marijuana users, and thus an increase in healthcare costs. Because they are accessible and available, our legal drugs are used far more than our illegal ones. According to recent surveys, alcohol use is used by 52% of Americans and tobacco is used by 27% of Americans. Marijuana is used by 8% of Americans. Difference between these? Legality. When RAND researchers analyzed California"s 2010 effort to legalize marijuana, they concluded that the price of the drug could plummet and therefore marijuana consumption could increase.

Take the Netherlands as an example. Independent research reveals that in the Netherlands, where marijuana was decriminalized and sold openly at "coffee shops," marijuana use among young adults increased almost 300 percent after a wave of commercialization.

Alcohol is an excellent forecast of how marijuana would cost us. Federal excise taxes collected on alcohol in 2007 totaled around $9 billion; states collected around $5.5 billion. Combined, these amounts are less than 10 percent of the estimated $185 billion in alcohol-related costs to health care, criminal justice, and the workplace in lost productivity. With marijuana being more harmful than alcohol and thus resulting in more complex, expensive treatment, the burden imposed on society could be great.

David G. Evans, the Special Adviser to the Drug Free America Foundation says that "The argument that we can tax and regulate marijuana and derive income from it is false. The increased use will increase the multitude of costs that come with marijuana use. The costs from health and mental wellness problems, accidents, and damage to our economic productivity will far out strip any tax obtained. Our economy is suffering. The last thing we need is the burden that legalization will put on us."

5. Promotes growth of the underground market
With the legalisation of marijuana, marijuana would be taxed upon, and thus illegal drug trade would have every incentive to remain and grow. Kevin Sabet, the former Senior Policy Advisor to President Obama's Drug Czar says that "Today's thriving underground market for tobacco is a good example of this. The drug trade is so profitable that even undercutting the taxed price would leave cartels with a handsome profit. Producing marijuana en masse at home is also much easier to do than with tobacco or alcohol. We can expect a thriving grey market."

Rebuttals:
1."Marijuana is one of the best found drugs in the world its the best thing that God has ever made."
How can a harmful substance be the best thing that God has ever made? Also, this debate has nothing to do with religion. Drugs that harm a person instead of healing a person are not good things. If so, how can marijuana be "the best"?

2. "Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food."
As quoted from the Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges, "In this verse God gives food to mankind consisting of the seed-bearing herbs and the fruit of trees. By comparison with Genesis 9:3, we see that the writer believed that, until after the Flood, mankind subsisted upon a purely vegetable diet. It may be asked how, if this were the case, man had the opportunity of exercising his dominion over fish, birds, and beasts: if he did not wish to eat them, neither would he wish to kill them. The truth seems to be that, according to the P version of Hebrew tradition, the first generations of mankind were intended to live, without bloodshed or violence, in an ideal condition, like that predicted by Isaiah (Genesis 11:6-9), "they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain." The prophet"s words, "a little child shall lead them," imply a dominion over the animal world which does not rest upon force."

The Pulpit Commentary and Keil and Delitzsch Biblical Commentary on the Old Testament share similar interpretations, thus proving Pro's use of the Bible verse wrong as he interpreted it wrongly and presented it so.

I look forward to seeing Pro's arguments and rebuttals.

References:
Degenhardt, L and Hall W, 2012. "Extent of illicit drug use and dependence, and their contribution to the global burden of disease", The Lancet, Vol 379 January 7.
http://www.sciencedaily.com...
http://www.drugfreeworld.org...
MacCoun, R. & Reuter, P. (1997). Interpreting Dutch cannabis policy: Reasoning by analogy in the legalisation debate. Science, 278(3): 47"52; cf. de Zwart, W. & van Laar, M. (2001). Cannabis regimes. British Journal of Psychiatry, 178: 574-5
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Debate Round No. 1
nelson420

Pro

nelson420 forfeited this round.
notyourbusiness

Con

Pro has forfeited this round. I extend all my points and rebuttals.

I would like to add a few points:

5. It goes against the principle of promoting and preserving public health
With all the physical and mental harms the consumption of marijuana brings, legalising it would only mean a blatant allowing harmful substances to be consumed by the public and thus a blatant allowing and accommodation of a less healthy population. This goes against the role of government. According to the Constitution's preamble, the Government's Role includes "To promote the general Welfare". "Welfare" is defined as "the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group." Thus it is obvious that preserving and promoting public health is a duty of the government, and legalising marijuana goes against it.

6. Marijuana affects other people besides the smoker
The consumption of marijuana not only harms the smoker himself/herself but also the people around.

Drug use in general causes negative effects to persons besides the user, such as the rise of health care costs, violence associated with the use of drugs, neglect of children by drug-addicted parents, and other third party effects. Legalising marijuana and thus allowing people to consume it in public will pollute the minds of the younger generation, giving them the message that taking drugs is acceptable.

There are reasons certain things are illegal and/or cannot be done in public. Pornography is an example. Pornography cannot be displayed in public places due to the negative messages they send to those not of age. Why, then, should marijuana be an exception?

I look forward to seeing Pro's arguments and rebuttals.

References:
http://education-portal.com...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com...
Debate Round No. 2
nelson420

Pro

nelson420 forfeited this round.
notyourbusiness

Con

Another forfeit! All points and rebuttals extended.
Debate Round No. 3
nelson420

Pro

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notyourbusiness

Con

Forfeit again. All points extended. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 4
nelson420

Pro

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notyourbusiness

Con

Another forfeit. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by missmedic 2 years ago
missmedic
When something is illegal the control of the something is put in the hands of the criminal. and makes anyone associated with the something a criminal. The greatest harm caused by the use of marijuana to an individual or the family unit comes from law enforcement.
Posted by GoOrDin 2 years ago
GoOrDin
Pro can't win this. He is simply an ignorant individual acting arrogant by ignoring all the factually negative effects of making marijuana available to the national market.

You need to think more on what actually happens in life Nelson, and search for an understanding. You are incredibly young even if you don't realize that yet.

You probably do not understand politics, religion, mental health illnesses, or physiology yet.

In that situation. I am a marijuana user, and I am against legalizing it, supporting it and promoting it. But I do like it a lot, enjoy it, and find much pleasure in it. But, that doesn't mean that I have ever found appreciation in how others use it, live their lives around it, or function while high.

It prevents me from eating, sleeping and sitting still. ** not the common situation**
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