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commonsensepls
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Should online poker be legalized?

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Started: 1/12/2012 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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commonsensepls

Pro

I believe online poker should be legalized. This can create potential tax revenue for the government, and because online poker is an optional activity, thus the tax would be as well. I don't believe that the government should be in the business of picking winners and losers. The fact that they legislate against potential losers in this argument under the flag of staving off potential addiction is a challenge to individual liberty. For most people, its an entertaining activity that has a potentially positive gain. Its only a very small minority that has trouble with gambling.
whatevar862

Con

I believe that poker shouldn't be legalized. It would be too easy for people to lose their hard earned money. Poker is one of those really competitive games that trap cocky people . They keep on going until they lose all of their money and are left on the streets. The anonymity of it means that a 14 year old could take their parents credit card and actually lose all their money. It also means there could be an increase in fraud.
Debate Round No. 1
commonsensepls

Pro

My opponent states that it would be too easy for people to lose their money, and that it traps cocky people. That may be so, but why should those who budget a reasonable amount of money, or are not cocky, be subject to suppression of their individual rights? There are people out there who are addicted to food, and consume much more than they need, however they are still allowed to spend or "lose" their money on useless food.

If the concern is that a minor will use their parents' credit card and participate in gambling, we have to examine who is responsible for this behavior? Certainly a responsible, legal player is not responsible if a minor partakes in online poker. Why should his right to play be suppressed because somebody may misrepresent themself and enter an online cardroom illegally? Legal players have done nothing to merit having their freedom to spend their money how they wish taken away. Furthermore, if a 14 year old uses their parents' credit card to play, why isn't the parents at fault? Shouldn't they be keeping track of where something as valued as a credit card is kept? Also, shouldn't they be responsible for the content that their child is exposed to? There are programs on computers that restrict programming and Internet access specifically for this purpose. It isn't society's job to assure that this child does not corrupt their own values- it is the PARENTS' responsibility.

When it comes to people losing their money, and being left penniless on the streets, again, that is a personal responsibility choice. There are many other legal ways to lose all of your money that would not ever be considered for legislation against. Drinking alcohol, shopping, putting money into risky investments, just to name a few. These are all things that could put a person into bankruptcy, but you would never consider outlawing stock trading, drinking beer (we saw how well that worked during Prohibition), or purchasing shoes and televisions.

The bottom line is that when you suppress the personal liberties of the majority, just to protect the minority, that is called "tyranny of the minority." Most people have the ability to control themselves when it comes to morally questionable behavior. They should not be punished solely because of those who can not, or CHOOSE NOT, to control themselves.
whatevar862

Con

My opponent says its ok for someone who isn't that cocky could do it but actually even the ordinary person can get competitive. If a 14 year old did use their parents credit card it is not their fault as most kids nowadays are quite sneaky and if a parents in the house and they say left it in their room and the child steals it surely its the child at fault as at 14-15 they should know right from wrong.

And in conclusion only 23% of people like to play online poker so I doubt its that big a loss if it becomes illegal. They can find something else to do with their time.
Debate Round No. 2
commonsensepls

Pro

So if a 14 or 15 year old steals their parents' credit card, it is not the fault of the parents or the minor? Whose fault is it then? Its not the fault of the poker site, or the other players on the site. Lets not lose sight of the issue you are arguing- the fact that a minor steals their parents' credit card, and uses it illegaly. Lets say the 15 year old takes the credit card, and then orders a TV or new clothes from a shopping website? The parent is still responsible for the charge. If they are not, then they report fraudulent use, and a criminal investigation occurs. The fact that you want to prohibit it because it is for online poker playing is a moot point. The credit card can be used to purchase something, whether its an X-box, or credits to play poker, the use of a stolen card makes it fraudulent. Based on your argument however, we would need to make purchasing any product online illegal. This wouldn't be fair to the vast majority, who are lawful users/purchasers, but we have to protect the credit card, correct?


Your 23% figure is irrelevant as well. I don't even know where that number came from, but lets not forget that the current 23% that enjoy playing online poker are doing so illegally. That number may increase with legalization. If it doesn't, then nothing is lost.
whatevar862

Con

whatevar862 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
commonsensepls

Pro

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whatevar862

Con

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Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by lannan13 5 years ago
lannan13
change the font please it's hurting my eyes
Posted by lannan13 5 years ago
lannan13
it's over
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