The Instigator
HollyMaxSpencer
Con (against)
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The Contender
RyGonX
Pro (for)
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Should people have to note their gender orientation to school administrators?

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HollyMaxSpencer
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/1/2014 Category: Society
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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HollyMaxSpencer

Con

I don't think people should have to note if they are straight or gay. It's their business, and they can like who they want to like. Most people probably wouldn't answer truthfully for fear of discrimination. Schools should promote tolerance, and making people 'admit' things they would rather keep private is not a way of helping its process move faster, in my opinion. Students should want to be open with teachers, not trying to hide anything, like this type of question on school forms might make them want to.
RyGonX

Pro

As the question states, they are declaring it with their school administrators, not their friends. A school counselor isn't going to ridicule someone for being gay (under normal circumstances). It doesn't state anywhere that the school is going to be intolerant of gay students, they just want information to identify their own students. A student can easily request secrecy with this information and wouldn't have to be worried about being classified as gay to the public. After all, schools have no reason to go against their own students
Debate Round No. 1
HollyMaxSpencer

Con

If a school is tolerant or not is really important, and if a single administrator is not, that could cause hard times for the student. It's not just the student's peers that could be judgmental of the individual's sexual orientation, but adults can be, too. Why would the school NEED to know if a student is gay, bisexual, or straight? It may be useful to prevent any intolerance, and the student better be able to request privacy, but this should not be a mandatory question. The child may not want even one person to know, and it could make being around that administrator very uncomfortable. Even if they choose wether to answer it or not, there can still be discomfort. The person could be torn wether not to answer it and arouse suspicion, lie, or tell the truth. It could possibly be very stressful. My main point is, it doesn't matter if the child's peers know or not, the person may just want to keep this completely private.
RyGonX

Pro

RyGonX forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
HollyMaxSpencer

Con

I don't have anything to argue since you forfeited the last round.
RyGonX

Pro

RyGonX forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by bladerunner060 3 years ago
bladerunner060
Conduct, obviously, for the forfeits.

S&G was equal enough, and nobody sourced.

As to arguments:

Pro did not really mount a strong case at all--obviously, the forfeits hampered his doing so.

That said, he did present *something* at least, arguing that they "just want information". But as Con notes: "Why would the school NEED to know if a student is gay, bisexual, or straight? ...this should not be a mandatory question. The child may not want even one person to know, and it could make being around that administrator very uncomfortable"

Pro never responded to any of this, due to the forfeits, and therefore, arguments to Con.

On a final note, though, I'll echo YYW's sentiment, Con: Gender orientation =/= sexual orientation.
Posted by YYW 3 years ago
YYW
Gender orientation is not sexual orientation. You might want to edit that.
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Vote Placed by bladerunner060 3 years ago
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Vote Placed by Ameliamk1 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro forfeits.