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Should people who kill someone , also be killed by the law instead of getting imprisonment?

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Started: 3/18/2016 Category: Society
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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nananti.52

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In my position, I think in all fairness someone who kills someone should also be killed. I know its going to look like its brutal, but take a while and think about this; taking someone's life is a huge sin and someone who kills somebody is not human. For example the incident that happened in Chicago.
MathWHiz9089

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First of all, the thing about "not human" is totally opinion. Human needs to be identified first before saying something like that. Human means it is not an animal and has enough intelligence to know whats right or wrong. If law kills someone who also kills someone, what does that help to do? The family that lost a person that was killed doesn't get anything from killing the murderer. Nor does HIS family. Jail time can help in case if they are going insane so they can go to an asylum to calm down an then be released living a normal life. It all depends on the person, so you can't just go in and say hes not human and he should be killed no matter the case. You also need to define murder and manslaughter which I will do in my next argument so you can have a side.
Debate Round No. 1
nananti.52

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Debate Round No. 2
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Debate Round No. 3
nananti.52

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"People often confuse retribution with revenge... Vengeance signifies inflicting harm on the offender out of anger because of what he has done. Retribution is the rationally supported theory that the criminal deserves a punishment fitting the gravity of his crime...

Retributive is not based on hatred for the criminal (though a feeling of vengeance may accompany the punishment). Retributive is the theory that the criminal deserves to be punished and deserves to be punished in proportion to the gravity of his or her crime, whether or not the victim or anyone else desires it. We may all deeply regret having to carry out the punishment, but consider it warranted.

When a society fails to punish criminals in a way thought to be proportionate to the gravity of the crime, the danger arises that the public would take the law into its own hands, resulting in vigilante justice, lynch mobs, and private acts of retribution. The outcome is likely to be an anarchistic, insecure state of injustice."
MathWHiz9089

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Debate Round No. 4
nananti.52

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Everyone agrees that there should be some punishment for murder. This mandate turns capital punishment into a necessity when nothing else serves as real punishment for a murder... Everyone would also agree that besides imposing some punishment for murder, the law should also impose meaningful punishment. Society is justly ordered when each person receives what is due to him. Crime disturbs this just order, for the criminal takes from people their lives, peace, liberties, and worldly goods in order to give himself undeserved benefits. Deserved punishment protects society morally by restoring this just order, making the wrongdoer pay a price equivalent to the harm he has done. This is retribution, not to be confused with revenge, which is guided by a different motive. In retribution the spur is the virtue of indignation, which answers injury with injury for public good.
MathWHiz9089

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Stonehe4rt 1 year ago
Stonehe4rt
We should definitely promote Love more though, so little people have that nowadays, talk to a stranger and you are either annoying them, or a tool for them to use. Everyone is very self centered nowadays, if only everyone loved each other then the whole world could be a paradise. But unfortunately we have "sick dogs" in this world, and we may never achieve that utopia. Though if we had some unbiased overseer like robot of something that could just kill any "sick dog" the moment before they commit an evil act, then maybe. But would that be ethical? Idk. But thats the only way Humans alone could achieve a "peace". A Fake Peace since everyone would only comply for the sake of their own life, but it would still be peace. If everyone did learn to love though, that would be great, just idealistic.
Posted by Stonehe4rt 1 year ago
Stonehe4rt
That is a good philosophy, though some people who wont listen and will continue to try to make others suffer needed to be banished or put down like a dog. Not out of hate, but out of love. The love to protect our families and friends from the monsters of the world, the love to protect the monsters of the world from their own actions. Such as people from ISIS who rape woman and crucify young children and sell whole families into slavery and torture people. You think they would listen to someone preaching about love? Those are people who need to be put down, because they are like sick dogs. Maybe not out of hatred but to stop the "sickness" from spreading and affecting others. I love your philosophy, but could you still think that, while someone is holding you down, taking your children and spouse, raping and crucifying them and telling you to rebuke all of your philosophies and when you do, they kill your family anyways? Think you could preach love? That would be something I think I am incapable of, maybe you are. However I would put them down as soon as I could, not even out of hatred, just because it needs to be done.
Posted by StephenPeace 1 year ago
StephenPeace
Why would we kill someone for helping someone kill themselves? Why don't we instead, try to show this person love and change their view that they have on human life, focusing more on the fact that life is A blessing? Instead of bringing more death, why don't we promote more Love?
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