Should racial segragation be reimplemented?
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Racial segragation: "the practice of restricting people to certain circumscribed areas of residence or to separate institutions (e.g., schools, churches) and facilities (parks, playgrounds, restaurants, restrooms) on the basis of race or alleged race."
establish (something) again or anew.
"this project will re-establish contact with students"
I will be Con.
My opponent posted a video showing the riots in a poverty stricken area. With poverty accompanies crime and a lack of education. Posting a video showing a group of select individuals that are on the low end of the socioeconomic scale doesn't support Pro's argument, actually proves nothing and goes to show my opponent is associating class-ism with racism.
Anyways, back to the actual debate. There are a large number of reasons why modern-day segregation is a ridiculous idea. The primary three are moral, social, and economic issues that would accompany it. We will explore all three.
Moral: "concerned with the principles of right and wrong behavior and the goodness or badness of human character."
America is supposed to be the example for the world. A country that is supposed to represent freedom, liberty, justice, and equality. America lacked all of those until the 1960s. Now that we are beginning to mend the rifts and become an overall tolerant, progressive country, there are some that refuse to conform and instead live in the past. Just twenty years after the passing of the Civil Rights Act, the US was pressuring South Africa to abolish their system of legal segragation (Apartheid.) How can America be an example for the world when they separate their citizens based off of such superficial traits such as skin color? With a black President in office! The idea isn't too rational.
Social: For this, I will define society as social relates to society. "The aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community.
Separating the American nation by race will create rifts even greater than the modern era. For once, we are living together in harmony working towards making our nation great. Dividing the races will lead to more tension and stereotypes as the races won't interact to destroy the disillusions of the other race. It has been proven that forced tolerance works. Integration lead to the prosperity of our incredibly diverse nation.
Economic: "of or relating to economics or the economy."
Segregation is not economically feasible. In the modern era, we have a middle class that knows no race. These are consumers who work for a living and are prepared to give their hard-earned money to a business. Denying all races except for one would be stupid. There is no rational explanation to deny someone service because of their race.
Not only that, but we would have to install bathrooms, water fountains, parks, etc. for each and every race. Who's going to pay for that? Not only will segregation lose money, it will cost a ton as well.
It's 2015. Any race can do anything any other race can do. Any race can get a PHD. Any race can be a CEO. Any race can become the most powerful man on Earth (POTUS.) Segregating the races will inevitably lead to an oppressive system that favors the majority.
we are not living in harmony whatsoever.
looking at other countries and not just our own you can see that their is always tension between cultures.
Hutu's vs tutsis
Greeks vs Turks
Chinese vs Japanese
Israel vs Iran
and so many more.
looking at our own country and looking at STATISTICS AND FACTS you can see that black on white violence is 23 times more likely than a white on black assault which is rising. 35,000 white women get raped by black males while 0-8 black women get raped by white males every year. Statistics aren't "racist".
Forced assimilation by democrats is what is making people hate one another and kill each other. Looking at Mizzou, Ferguson, or any other issue of TODAY you can see that their is no harmony whatsoever. I'm not saying whatsoever that re segregation would a hinder anyone or anyone's race to still get a PHD or become a CEO. all that would happen is that people would live more comfortably even if it is ignorant to think this way.
My opponent likes to bring up history but has no depth of what is going on around him of today's society and what happens around the world. Keep living in your little fantasy bubble of harmony between races. In no point in history has forced assimilation and integration caused peace.
Marcus Garvey is more intelligent than this guy let me tell you.
In no way shape or form do I hate any race and I have plenty of friends from various cultures. All I'm saying is that their is racial tension and its not going away by being ignored.
Pro also mistakenly confuses political conflict and international relations as synonymous to America's racial demographics. You are referring to nationalities. We are debating about racial segregation in a single country.
The Chinese and Japanese have had tensions as countries for years. It has nothing to do with race. It was two large countries competing for dominance in Asia.
Israel and Iran have nothing to do with race or religion. It's a political conflict. East vs West. Jews in Iran enjoy the same equality as Muslims. It's even in their constitution.
All those examples you cited have nothing to do with race relations. That's all political skirmishes among people who don't even live in the same country. Also, I could also cite France vs Germany. Two countries with different cultures that fought the bloodiest wars in history twice and now they are allies. They are NATO members and both members of the EU. Clearly, two different countries can set aside their differences and prosper.
So there goes your entire argument.
You cite crime as a reason for racial segregation? Have you ever questioned why blacks are disproportionately represented in poverty levels? It's called disenfranchisement and the effects are still around to this day. White flight, red-zoning, and mortgage discrimination. Denial of basic economic and social opportunities. That is why blacks are primarily on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale. You can't oppress a certain race for 600 years and then expect them to conform in the 60 years that they have given. That's not even a single lifetime.
You cite black crime as a reason for your argument. And? How does that support your argument at all?
I've already shown that integration can work perfectly. Europe has done is longer than us and I don't hear a lot about racial tension...do you?
My opponent is clearly confusing his class-ism with racism and believes he's justified. You are an idiot. Learn to spell and then try to keep up with the big boys, kiddo.
Sorry you don't have the mental capacity to differentiate between fears of terrorism and racism....just walk it off.
dom761 forfeited this round.
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