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LadyDi93
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Should students have the ability to participate in the hiring of their educators?

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Started: 11/25/2013 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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LadyDi93

Pro

I think it's something that should happen in order for students to have more say in what teacher they want. Some students are visual learners and some auditory learners. The problem is how one would one have the students participate in the hiring process? Should they take part in the interviewing process? Should the potential teacher substitute and interact with the students in order to see how the teacher gives lessons and forms relationships with the students? What do you guys think?
brepar

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As I'm not sure which of these to argue against I'm just going to argue against all of them and allow you to pick which has the least flaws, that is not to say that i completely disagree with all of them just that all ideas will have problems and that you should (as the creator of the debate) should be the one to finally decide which you believe to be the best.

- The interviewing process
I believe the main issue with this is that for a full representation of the class all of the students, or at least a vast majority would have to be out of lessons to take part in the interview, multiply this by 4-5 teacher candidates and this would take a lot of time out of their timetabled lessons (placing the interview at any other time would result in the students not wanting to participate).

The only way to remove this issue is to take a group of representatives but this will inevitably result in a biased opinion as the teachers selecting students will want to pick their "model" students who will not, perhaps, be considering the teachers ability to do things such as control the class but only the teachers ability to teach them as an individual. Choosing students who are more disruptive to see whether the students could be controlled may not help either as they may pick a teacher who won't force them to work on the grounds that they won't want to work on something they don't understand and the teacher will be unlikely to be able to impart the understanding neccesary for the student to enjoy the subject in the short period of an interview (or even a few lessons).
Either way you definitely risk an imbalance in the people chosen to attend the interview.

- Substituting as a teacher for a lesson
This method definitely has the edge over the other one in that it doesn't require students to be pulled out of lessons to participate an interview. However other problems still exist, again I'm going to start by saying the the "model" students won't particularly care how the teacher is as long as they are able to learn in an moderately enjoyable way.
The disruptive students however aren't going to take the teachers very seriously in only one or two lessons so the teachers have the choice of being:
1) very strict, they show the evaluating teachers that they can control the class but the students won't like it so won't pick them.
2) fun, the students will enjoy it but as they are a new teacher the students may try to walk over them so the teachers who are evaluating will not appreciate this.
3) There is a small possibility that the teacher is able to keep the class under control and make it enjoyable, but it's unlikely.
Debate Round No. 1
LadyDi93

Pro

LadyDi93 forfeited this round.
brepar

Con

alternatively you could save hiring them until the end of the year then have them run preparation classes in the run up where students are expecting new teachers.
Debate Round No. 2
LadyDi93

Pro

LadyDi93 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by brepar 3 years ago
brepar
sure, but that wasn't what the person asked, and any excuse for a debate.
Posted by cummingsmsc2014 3 years ago
cummingsmsc2014
well you see ladies, i feel as thou the hiring of teachers should be left up to the head of the school department. It just does not seem right to have kids hiring their elders .
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