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Should teenage girls get abortion without parents permission?

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Started: 3/3/2011 Category: Health
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Safia.Abdalla

Pro

With the rise of teenage pregnancies, it is pretty obvious that teenage girls should be given the right to an abortion without parent consent.

1. The child is their's.
It is not the parent's child's child. It is the child's child and she should have say over what to do with it. This is the limit where parent intervention ends and a teenager should be allowed to make their own decisions.

2. They would avoid problems.
Abortions without family consent can prevent disputes at home, domestic violence, or just plain outright unexpected reactions. Recall that most teenage pregnancies are in poor urban areas [http://news.bbc.co.uk...] where (some) parents tend to be less supportive and more willing to abuse their child for mistakes.

3. They have the right.
Sure you can say that abortions are bad. I think otherwise. And if you say so, teenage girls are an exception. They most likely do not have the skill to take care of a child, the money to support them, and most likely the person who impregnated them is not there for them. Therefore pregnancy is their only option.
democrat435

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I do agree with thier rights as women, but you have to consider the fact on why they have put themselves in the situation where they have to kill a human being living inside them. I know that they should have rights without parental consent but they have a problem as well - how the pregnacy caused, who is the father and what is his opinion?, and responsibilities to the child develpoing inside them.

Teenage girls should stop and think before they do anthing so they can cope with the resulting actions. They may have the rebellion of it being thier own baby and they have authority but when teenage pregnacy occurs, the girls become depresses and feel upset that they do not want the baby in most circumstances, maybe due to a mistake, but in reality it isn't a mistake until they wake up and realise what has happened. The couple they always run to for refuge to is their parents who are the authority for the teens and held responsible.

Teenage girls are mostly underage when pregnant and when the boys parents or social services come around to confront about this problem, the parents are held responsibile. They are held responsible becuase they still have legal responsibility for the teen. And whilst they are having to lay everything on the line to protect thier child from hypocrisy, critism and irresponsibility, they have the right to tell thier daughter that from the suffering, pain and shame it can bring to a family, weather that thier irresponsible teen should or should not, destroy a little life developing and nurturing itself to enter the world as a new, enthusiastic and loving being. Should the girl have the right to abort this life without parents permission even though they have wiser advice and can help look after it?
Debate Round No. 1
Safia.Abdalla

Pro

Teenage girls often make mistakes. Recall that they are still adolscenes and are still in the process of learning. We also have to consider the fact that the pregnancy may not be entirely the girls fact considering they may have been forced into it, drugged and then impregnated, or bullied. In this case, they would want to remove the memory of these incidents.

The parent may have legal rights over the teenager but not over the teenagers child. I also feel that this method is effiecient considering the fact that states such as Alaska, California, and Illinois.
democrat435

Con

I totally agree with you on the fact that teenage girls make mistakes and could have been drugged to do so, but we as human beings especially when in teen years we maturing to a young adult, have responsibility to ourselves and we have to make informed choices about who we socialise with and what different people are like or what is the best thing to do at times.

Teenage girls may make mistakes but the ones who do make mistakes and end up pregnant are the less matured and less involved in the events and consequences in society. They are the ones who unlike most of us don't think about what could happen if they act, dress or speak in a certain way and are not considering the pain and suffering they could cause by thier actions, which could be all from a stranger they met in a bar or at a nightclub. I also think that when a teen, most of us want to go out and party the night away and get involved in events on the basis of what you could say liberal rebellion as they have a freedom of doing certain things they couldn't when they were younger like the many things you can do now over the age of 15 or 18.

However some of us who are mature enough, know when to stop these actions like clubbing or late nights out with mates and can think ahead of our lives where as most teenage girls who maybe feel they do not have anything to contribute to society or to thier family, feel that any of thier actions are fine when in the circumstance as they are now teens and don't need nagging or some discipline about surviving the world . I feel this is wrong because advice and warning can push troubled teens into the right direction and will help if thier conscience kicks in before they do anything.
Debate Round No. 2
Safia.Abdalla

Pro

We should not be punishing teenage girls by the way they dress and act. What you were describing seems to be the typical stereotype of a "street girl". Most girls would never make this choice by themselves. They are lured by the society and poverty by which they are surrounded to act this way. In some cases, it is even expected of them. They should be forgiven for what they have done. And this certain group of teenagers should not be favored in this decision amongst those who are excellent students and have bright futures but made a "mistake".

Also please do realize that as teenagers, even with a conscious and the ability to make smart decisions one thing can get in the way. Their hormones. And since they are still young they cannot handle these strong emotions. Another situation, that I understand is quite common from certain occurrences at my school is when girls who are on the right track and going to a great college are forced into sexual intercourse or seduced into it during their senior year by jealous, possessive or desperate boyfriends.They need to be given a chance to move on with their lives.
democrat435

Con

You say they should be givem a chance to move on from a silly mistake or its due to their hormones but you still haven't classified them aborting a baby. Teenage girls dont have to be 'street girls' to make the mistake because anybody can make a mistake. What about the little human being inside them?

If you ask me, even if they abort it before the limit, it is still murder because a life has been taken no matter how small it is. Sexual intercourse is a delicate thing and even if teenage girls have hormonal rushes, they can use protection or should think before they act because we as humans have to make choices everyday. And what is there to say that making a choice if you have intercourse or not is any different friom maybe commiting suicide. The link between those two statemenst are that they can have devestating impact on the community and those around you and you must be justified in those actions so you know why you are doing such a thing and who will be affected.

Teenage pregnacy can make lives difficult both for families and the teen. They may want to be forgiven and move on but the pregnancy and how it came to be will not be the factor that will remain on the teens life- it will be the baby that they kill. What right do we as a humanity have to destroy a living organism that is no different to any of us. we used to be embryo's and are now children, teens and adults so what difference does it make because that is us in a younger and vulnerable state waiting to enter the big world to enjoy life in harmony and tranquility without the danger of being threatened. Living is not a privilege, it is a right and everyone no matter what happens is entitled to that at least. What if our parents gave birth to us as an accident or people who do not exist today were aborted because they were an accident?

If teenage girls let the child live and let it enter our world, it could be almost certain that in 10 years time of that birth, they will realise the happiness and joy they have with thier child and can think just by looking at thier family and child - could I have had all the happiness in the world and made my family better if I had aborted my bundle of JOY?
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Angel_Miche 4 years ago
Angel_Miche
I do not think that parents should be involved in the final decision of an abortion but I do think they should at least know. However every teenage girl doesnt have support parents so thats why they dont tell (put the shoe on the other foot). Besides if she has that baby Are You Going To Help And Support That Child?.....I didnt think so
Posted by democrat435 5 years ago
democrat435
that is one side of that story because some girls can be inconsiderate and find the father responsible and leave them to look after the child while they run off after pregnacy
Posted by DebateGirl 5 years ago
DebateGirl
I think that the parents have the right to know if their daughter is getting an abortion (afterall, it is THEIR daughter) but I do not think that they should be able to decide whether or not she gets an abortions. Also, in most teenage pregnancies the 'father' isn't always there. Most of the time, he ends up dumping the mother, never seeing his child again, or helping in any way. So, in those cases the father's opinion shouldn't count.
Posted by democrat435 5 years ago
democrat435
thank you Wigshen.
Posted by Wigshen 5 years ago
Wigshen
It should be a joint decision of the girl and the father of the potential child, I say POTENTIAL, not the parents parents. This is a debate about who should decide, not another chance for pro lifers to air their outdated notions.
Posted by democrat435 5 years ago
democrat435
i may have been seen as not debating the subject but the things i mentioned are the factors in which parental consent is needed and it was mentioned in the debate but all my key factors are what will determin weather the parents have the right or not.
Posted by System113 5 years ago
System113
I say any girl who gets an abortion must have their tubes tied after the procedure. Except in cases where childbirth would kill the mother.
Posted by JanaeJanay 5 years ago
JanaeJanay
Although I do not believe that people should get abortions AT ALL, end the end i do believe is it not the parents decision.
Posted by IamZero 5 years ago
IamZero
Hey, awesome job. i go with con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con totally won.
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Reasons for voting decision: Both of you had atrocious grammar mistakes, so no points there. Con failed to understand what he was supposed to be debating about. Time and time again he fought abortion, but this was about parental consent. Neither of you used sources, so again no points there.