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Should the Patriots have a asterisks on their 2007 season due to the spygate scandal?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/15/2007 Category: Sports
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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shlh1514

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I believe that the Patriots should have an asterisks to their record because they could have done what they did to the Jets to other teams and that could take the game to an uneven level and prove the game unworthy to see. And the punishment was WAY too weak. Taking draft picks is the weakest form of punishment unless your team goes down to last place, but the NFL should have made the Patriots forfeit that game to the Jets and the fine needed to be bigger to show how your team should suffer to the hands of cheating.
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Debate Round No. 1
shlh1514

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This debate is usless because DrAcula closed his acoount and for what? I still think the Patriots should have their 07-08 season with a asterisks because it is relavtivy useless to let them get by with it.
DrAcula

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Debate Round No. 2
shlh1514

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It is because the Patriots bad example of sypgating that forces the game and the teams respect fall due to cheating.
DrAcula

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DrAcula forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by righty10294 9 years ago
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Biast Voting at its best ugh
Posted by abrown11 9 years ago
abrown11
The patriots do not deserve an astrix. The jets were caught filming in the 2007 AFC Wild Card Playoff Game vs the Patriots. However the Patriots acted like adults and chose to just remove the camera man instead of reporting it to the league. The Patriots cameraman was removed around the 7 minute mark. Meaning they still would've won the game without the cameraman. No astrix. Its complete nonsense for all sports. If they cheated, who cares. You'll get over it eventually. All coaches and players cheat, in one way or another. They just won't fess up. And it the Patriots situation was an overall confusion of the rules. And the Jets can have the Patriots pick. Because the Patriots leave the situation with still a #7 draft pick from the 49ers. So stop crying. The Jets are terrible. Fire Mangini. End this.
Posted by jwebb893 9 years ago
jwebb893
you cant vote for somone who doesnt show up. We are supposed to vote on the DEBATE not our opinions. christ.
Posted by zarul 9 years ago
zarul
Urrgh

Another debater losing to an opponent that doesn't bother to show up...
Posted by SocialistRI82 9 years ago
SocialistRI82
Many NFL coaches have admitted that it happens all around the league, and that they still had to go out there and execute the plays. It's one thing to know whats coming, and an entirely different thing to be able to beat it. When you are on op people tend to hate you. Thats fine, while all the anti-patriots people are arguing about the "spygate" story the Pats are beating everyone they face, and are marching toward yet another super bowl. So cry all you want they have beaten every team after the scandal, and for the most part they have pummeled these teams. Dallas the so-called NFC powerhouse......how did they fair?? Remember "spygate" was in week 1. How do you account for the 14 straight wins since? Maybe its not cheating, but the fact they are by far more talented, better coached, and play better than everyone else. So stop the crying about it, just sounds like a bunch of baby sore losers to me. I pray the colts come up here and play the pats, and we'll see whats what. (the pats had injuries when they lost to the colts last year, funny you didn't hear pats fans crying about it and making excuses.) Winning and success breed jealousy, which is further made evident by debates like this.
Posted by shwayze 9 years ago
shwayze
There's no way the Pats should have an asterisk on the 2007 season. The truth is that every team spies on each other during games, doing the same exact thing New England was doing except they would just have someone watch them the entire time. Though I dont agree with that they did, it was a pretty sly move. Considering how well the Pats have played this seaon without their alleged cheating, there is no way this team should have an asterisk. They are one of top 3 teams in the history of the NFL.
Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha The Colts will beat the Pats hahahahahahahahahahahaha They only lost because they had injured players ... okay ..sure thats why :) haha :) Pats are undefeated , are the Colts lol?
Posted by crronaldo180 9 years ago
crronaldo180
By the way shlh, nice icon. I also like soccer. Sorry though, I am more of a Real Madrid fan, because I am a Man United fanf. Real Madrid has Van Nistlerooy, who used to be on Man United.
Posted by crronaldo180 9 years ago
crronaldo180
Ten minutes? They were videotaping many games before they were caught. Second, I don't care that the Colts lost. They could have beat the Patriots with their key players not on Injury Reserve, and the Colts will probably beat them in the playoffs. Last, if the Patriots and Barry Bonds don't have an asterisk, we wil open up the doors to cheating. Players will say "Hey, lets just take steroids and break a few records". They will be parts of history, and all they will get is a guilt trip for a couple weeks. If everyone starts cheating and using steroids, there will be no records. All of the records will be useless, because we won't know who actually broke them, or who cheated.
Posted by kels1123 9 years ago
kels1123
They got ten minutes of video before the camera was taken away in one game at the beginning of the season , how does that mean they dont deserve any Superbowl win. If they dont deserve it , why can't another team beat them . Sounds like you may be a little bitter since your team couldn't beat the Patriots :) As for Barry Bonds , I do not think he should have an asterick , I do think he should be punished.
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