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danielawesome12
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JuliusMaximus
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Should the U.S. build a Border Fence.

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danielawesome12
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/13/2013 Category: Politics
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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danielawesome12

Con

I will be debating why the U.S. shouldn't build a border fence around Mexico and/or Canada, to control immigration.
JuliusMaximus

Pro

I will be debating that a border fence is the only way to effectively control immigration.
Debate Round No. 1
danielawesome12

Con

First of all I'm sure a fence can be easily climbed or damaged.
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Second, Immigrants start businesses. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants.
Immigrant-owned businesses create jobs for American workers. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually.
Immigrants are also more likely to create their own jobs. According the U.S. Department of Labor, 7.5 percent of the foreign born are self-employed compared to 6.6 percent among the native-born.
Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies. According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel.
Immigrants are our engineers, scientists, and innovators. According to the Census Bureau, despite making up only 16 percent of the resident population holding a bachelor"s degree or higher, immigrants represent 33 percent of engineers, 27 percent of mathematicians, statisticians, and computer scientist, and 24 percent of physical scientists. Additionally, according to the Partnership for a New American Economy, in 2011, foreign-born inventors were credited with contributing to more than 75 percent of patents issued to the top 10 patent-producing universities.
Immigration boosts earnings for American workers. Increased immigration to the United States has increased the earnings of Americans with more than a high school degree. Between 1990 and 2004, increased immigration was correlated with increasing earnings of Americans by 0.7 percent and is expected to contribute to an increase of 1.8 percent over the long-term, according to a study by the University of California at Davis.
Immigrants boost demand for local consumer goods. The Immigration Policy Center estimates that the purchasing power of Latinos and Asians, many of whom are immigrants, alone will reach $1.5 trillion and $775 billion, respectively, by 2015.
Immigration reform legislation like the DREAM Act reduces the deficit. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, under the 2010 House-passed version of the DREAM Act, the federal deficit would be reduced by $2.2 billion over ten years because of increased tax revenues.
Comprehensive immigration reform would create jobs. Comprehensive immigration reform could support and create up to 900,000 new jobs within three years of reform from the increase in consumer spending, according to the Center for American Progress.
Comprehensive immigration reform would increase America"s GDP.The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that even under low investment assumptions, comprehensive immigration reform would increase GDP by between 0.8 percent and 1.3 percent from 2012 to 2016.

Third, Immigration does help
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Illegal immigrants contribute to our economy as workers, taxpayers, and consumers. They account for 5 percent of the total U.S. labor force, and at least a quarter of the workers in industries like construction, agriculture, groundskeeping, meat processing, and textile production. Undocumented immigration is a symptom of an immigration system that is broken. Lawmakers should revamp our immigration system so that it works with our economy, not against it.

Fourth , It would cost billions. In dollar terms, the outlay is substantial. Every time someone breaks a hole in the U.S.-Mexico border wall, it costs about $1,300 to repair. The estimated cost of maintaining the 661-mile (1,058 km) double-layered fence along part of its 2,000-mile (3,000 km) border with Mexico over the next 20 years is $6.5 billion, the GAO report says.
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JuliusMaximus

Pro

JuliusMaximus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
danielawesome12

Con

Though you did not post a argument, I'm your friend and would rather not debate if you don't feel like responding.
JuliusMaximus

Pro

JuliusMaximus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
danielawesome12

Con

Though you did not post a argument, I'm your friend and would rather not debate if you don't feel like responding.
JuliusMaximus

Pro

JuliusMaximus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
danielawesome12

Con

This was a failed debate...
JuliusMaximus

Pro

JuliusMaximus forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by leojm 4 years ago
leojm
Good Luck both of you.
Posted by leojm 4 years ago
leojm
Um, the fence won't do much. Unless you put bombs underground, like the Iron Curtain. Then that will stop it. I kind of like that idea. Bomb everybody who isn't allowed to be in the US. There are also cons to this idea.
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Vote Placed by TheGamer1998 4 years ago
TheGamer1998
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Reasons for voting decision: The U.S. is already bad enough as it is, it doesn't need to get worse
Vote Placed by imabench 4 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: FF