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Should the US make obtaining a residency easier

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Started: 2/4/2013 Category: Politics
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izzywizzy

Pro

The US should make getting a residency easier because many people that aren't rich cant live in the US. Also There are 11,200,000 illegal immigrants in the US, if the US makes getting a resindency easier there will not be as many illegal immigrants. Lastly, many people say that getting a residency already is easier bla bla bla, but there are only few ways of getting a residency; paying ALOT of money, winning the residency lottery, having a trusted sponsor, or having a threatning situation at home, how easy these may seam they are actually very drastic. If you choose having a threatning situation at home then you will never be able to step foot in your home country ever again.
Inquisitive

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I shall now contradict any and all points raised by pro as I believe this is all the con has to do here.

I hope you get the gist of it... If anything I say offends you feel free to attack it. I will be delighted to discuss any controversial points raised as I believe ideas and theories should be explored with no boundaries.

"The US should make getting a residency easier because many people that aren't rich cant live in the US." Making getting a residency easier would mean that more poor people would be counted in official surveys for income (which only legal immigrants take part in) and thus if they were to take part in it, since they are very poor, this would make the most brilliant USA seem as if its GDP were lower than it really was. This would inevitably spark protest by angry southern republicans who would scream "GO BACK TO WHERE YOU BELONG... JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T DO TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS!" and it would, inevitably, result in a most horrific scene of protest whereby the Ku Klux Klan might arise again. How very horrific. In order to maintain decorum and make GDP seem as high as possible for the sake of America's reputation, the government will find it in their best interest to not include these poor old chaps in their legal immigrant survey of income.

"There are 11,200,000 illegal immigrants in the US" Without a source we must render this a false and unwarranted claim. Also how on Earth would we be able to officially calculate this if illegal immigrants keep themselves hidden and under cover in essence being completely off any official record of data whatsoever?

"if the US makes getting a residency easier there will not be as many illegal immigrants." Instead, there will be legalised overpopulation. Fabulously terrible plan don't you think?

"many people say that getting a residency already is easier bla bla bla" Irrelevant and also unwarranted.

"there are only few ways of getting a residency; paying ALOT of money, winning the residency lottery, having a trusted sponsor, or having a threatning[sic] situation at home, how easy these may seam[sic] they are actually very drastic." Only one of the ways you suggested is true. And also it doesn't mean you can never go back home.

Let me actually explain how it works. There is only one year's compulsory non-return home, then you have to apply for a green card and are free to go on holiday to your country once you have one or you can remain in USA as a full-fledged citizen.

I shall now quote sources of well-credited evidence on the matter.

What is a refugee and an asylee (one who is seeking, or has sought, asylum in USA)?

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Under United States law, a refugee is someone who:

  • Is located outside of the United States
  • Is of special humanitarian concern to the United States
  • Demonstrates that they were persecuted or fear persecution due to race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or membership in a particular social group
    Is not firmly resettled in another country
  • Is admissible to the United States

A refugee does not include anyone who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.

Every year people come to the United States seeking protection because they have suffered persecution or fear that they will suffer persecution due to:

  • Race
  • Religion
  • Nationality
  • Membership in a particular social group
  • Political opinion

If you are eligible for asylum you may be permitted to remain in the United States. To apply for Asylum, file a Form I-589, Application for Asylum and for Withholding of Removal, within one year of your arrival to the United States. There is no fee to apply for asylum.

You may include your spouse and children who are in the United States on your application at the time you file or at any time until a final decision is made on your case. To include your child on your application, the child must be under 21 and unmarried.


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Refugees and asylees can apply for a green card.

If you were

Then you may apply for permanent residence

admitted to the United States as:

  • a refugee
  • a qualifying family member of an asylee

1 year after your entry into the United States

granted asylum in the United States

1 year after the grant of your asylum status

Note: As a refugee, you are required by law to apply for permanent resident status 1 year after being admitted to the United States. As an asylee, you are not required to apply for permanent resident status after being granted asylum for 1 year, although it may be in your best interest to do so.

As you can see, there are extensive measures taken for people who have 'troubles at home'.

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