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Hansg
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realpheonix
Con (against)

Should the United States substantially increase funding of agencies like border patrol?

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Started: 10/29/2016 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 month ago Status: Debating Period
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Hansg

Pro

One of the most common reasons conservatives are scrutinized is for the right wing view on illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is undermining U.S. citizens safety. A citizen from Thurston County, Washington writesMy experience is very simple. The juvenile detention school has grown from 25% Hispanic to 40% Hispanic over the last 4 years (2004"2008). Illegals are coming in, and they are involved in the drug trade and crime.

For Kate Steinle it was just a normal evening with her family, they were walking with her family on a San Francisco Pier. That ordinary night took a turn for the worse, with a single pop! Kate was shot and killed that night by an illegal alien. 45 year old Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez was deported five times before that fateful night. Along with his deportations he had been convicted of seven felonies. -CNN

Earl Olander was a ninety year old farmer living near Minnetonka Minnesota. Mr. Olander was a proud and kind man who was loved by all who knew him. One fateful day, two illegal aliens gained up on him while he was lounging in his living room and beat him mercilessly. He was left grasping for every breath, bleeding helplessly on the floor while they ransacked his entire living room looking for anything valuable enough to keep.

My opponent may argue that this is a small number of incidents within a large number of illegal immigrants, thus illegal immigration really isn't that unsafe. However there are numerous examples proving that argument is false."Between 2008 and 2014, 40 percent of all murder convictions in Florida were criminal aliens. In New York it was 34 percent and Arizona 17.8 percent."-The Wall Street Journal
"During those years, criminal aliens accounted for 38 percent of all murder convictions in the five states of California, Texas, Arizona, Florida and New York, while illegal aliens constitute only 5.6 percent of the total population in those states."- The Wall Street Journal
Statistics show the estimated 11.7 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. account for 13.6 percent of all offenders sentenced for crimes committed in the U.S. Twelve percent of murder sentences, 20 percent of kidnapping sentences and 16 percent of drug trafficking sentences are meted out to illegal immigrants. 4 percent of the population in 2009, that number was down to 3.5 percent in 2012, according to data from Pew Research.
There were 11.1 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2014, a total unchanged from 2009 and accounting for 3.5% of the nation"s population. Amounts of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007 at 12.2 million, when this group was 4% of the U.S. population. -Pew research
Amounts of unauthorized immigrants from nations other than Mexico grew by 325,000 since 2009, to an estimated 5.3 million in 2014. -Pew research

If the United States continues to allow illegal acts of immigration to prevail against our constitution, you will experience the deterioration of law and order, as well as our freedom and safety. Opiates will flood the streets, the cartel will take control of our inner cities, and you will se murder rates exponentially rise due to gang violence.
Whereas if a more conservative view is adopted to our border security, numbers of illegal aliens crossing the southern border will decrease, in turn freeing our most vulnerable generation, our future; from highly addicting opiates which already take so many of our young each and every year. The American taxpayer"s heavy burden of supporting illegal aliens on welfare, medicaid, and education will be lifted. A more conservative ideology means you will be the first priority of the United States Federal Government, Border Patrol.
realpheonix

Con

First, I will thank my opponent to create this debate.
My opponent's base logic was that illegal immigrants are dangerous and there are lots of harms from them. But it doesn't mean that we should never do something that is dangerous. If we should never do something that is dangerous, nobody should be allowed to drive a car because it is dangerous. Also, US are already using so many money to block illegal immigrants. My opponent just talked about the harm of illegal immigrants but never talked how American government should block them. I don't see any method how US should block illegal immigrants. Also, Blocking illegal immigrants in nowdays are just showing the examples of failing. They use so many money, but that doesn't work. Now lets see how undocumented immigrants benefits American economy. They come to America to earn money, so they will work very hard. This means on the other hand, Americans are going to work harder to protect their jobs. Adam Smith said that capitalism works self interest makes people to work harder. In this way, illegal immigrants will stimulus americans. So I explained that their are more harms than benefits when US substantially increase funding of agencies like border patrol. Thank you~.
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