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Jalisa
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Antichronos
Pro (for)
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Should the death penality be applied to children ages 13-18 that commit first-degree murder?

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Jalisa
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/18/2013 Category: Education
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Jalisa

Con

Children who are between the agees 13-18 should not be given the death penalty for first degree murder but simply be put in junvenile court. These kids are super young and they made a mistake but doesn't mean they get put down for it but rather serve time for their action. No ungood dead goes unpunished. To take someone's life isn't right, but an eye for an eye or a tooth for a tooth doesn't make it right either. We're so quick to put someone away or get rid of them, but slow to give them a chance and let them change and become a better person who can give back to their community.
Antichronos

Pro

At an age from 13-18 you are old enough to understand murder is wrong. If a child killed someone in cold blood they need to be punished. If they wanted to take an adult stand point and murder, they need to be willing to accept the consiquences. Murderers will be dealt with. The penelty for murder is death, and there are no exceptions.
Debate Round No. 1
Jalisa

Con

Children who are between the agees 13-18 should not be given the death penalty for first degree murder but simply be put in junvenile court. These kids are super young and they made a mistake but doesn't mean they get put down for it but rather serve time for their action. No ungood dead goes unpunished. To take someone's life isn't right, but an eye for an eye or a tooth for a tooth doesn't make it right either. We're so quick to put someone away or get rid of them, but slow to give them a chance and let them change and become a better person who can give back to their community.
Antichronos

Pro

I stand with my previous point. If they want to make an adult decision they need to be ready to have an adult consequence. Law is blind. And all should be treated as equal.
Debate Round No. 2
Jalisa

Con

By law it is illegal, and still not okay to put down a 13 year old. They are young and depending on where they come from and what they grew up around reflects their actions. A life of crime could be all they know.
Antichronos

Pro

By law, murder is Illegal. No matter who commits it. Be it 13 year old or a 33 year old. Everyone must face consequences. Just because he/she is considered a child in the eyes of the law does not mean they should be exempt from the penelty. First degree murder by definition is " is generally a killing which is deliberate and premeditated (planned, after lying in wait, by poison or as part of a scheme)" This means it was explicitly planned out and they knew what they were doing. They knew with full extent that they were about to take a human life. It doesn't matter how young or dependent. Murder is always wrong. If we let them just have a slap on the wrist. Who is to say they won't do something even worse after they get out?

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Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by 303zlari 3 years ago
303zlari
There should not be a death penalty in the first place because the criminal would suffer more if he had to spend the rest of his life in prison rather than just killing him. I think that he would get the easy way out by ending it with capital punishment.
Posted by Antichronos 3 years ago
Antichronos
Also I would like to say. I only took the opposing side for the debate. I do not believe in the death penelty.
Posted by kanemsc14 3 years ago
kanemsc14
The death penalty is wrong in all senses, and especially should not be applied to minors. The Pro argument is saying that to prove to America that murder in the first degree is morally and ethically wrong, and is taken seriously, the government will also commit the same crime. Like you said, murder is murder, and therefore the government, who is enforcing this, should not resort to hypocrisy. In addition, scientific studies claim that at that age, one's mind is not fully developed, and incapable of making the same decisions that adults would. Their mindset is completely different. Yes, it is a crime, and yes, they should pay for it. Isn't the point of juvenile prison to treat a person and make them understand that what they did was wrong? They can't change if they are dead.
Posted by rachebach 3 years ago
rachebach
So far, I'm with Jalisa. I'd rather the child be sent to a juvenile prison than serve the death penalty.
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Vote Placed by dtaylor971 3 years ago
dtaylor971
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Reasons for voting decision: Killing children is not acceptable. Yes kids know their actions are wrong and most should be given life in prison but the death penalty is wrong. What if the child is innocent? Is it ok for the state to murder innocent people?