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Should the goverment have a national registry of all gun owners in the united states

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Started: 3/1/2017 Category: Politics
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Blame_koney

Con

I dont think there should be because registration equals confiscation and it has happened in many other countries like austrilia and the uk where before guns were taken away they had to be registered so they knew exactly who has them or where to go! It wont stop a criminal from getting a gun at all! The goverment has no business knowing what anyone owns!
Yupia

Pro

Both your arguments are flawed.
1) Yes, you are right, in the UK and Australia have taken away guns from people... those people are people who have committed crimes with said guns. Unless your saying that people who literally kill people should have guns, than your argument is wrong. Furthermore, your argument is based off a logical fallacy, 'the slippery slope" fallacy to be specific.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com...
2) Yes your right, it wont stop criminals from getting guns, but that's irrelevant. Of course it wont stop them from getting guns, what it will do it prevent normal people who didn't get their gun from the black market, from using it. a majority of gun related crimes aren't from people who illegally got a gun, its from people who have registered guns.
Debate Round No. 1
Blame_koney

Con

First off no my arguement is not flawed! There was one mass shooting in austrilia in 1996 after that government sent letters to the people that there firearms had to be surrendered to law enforcement! There are alot if places around the world like the uk and canada who have utilized regestration to confiscate weapons from the law abiding! Theres no evidence to support that registration needs to be in place therefor why in the world is it the goverments business what the law abiding citizen has! Ive heard numourous reports of politicians wishing they could take all guns away from the general public and registraion will definetly be the first step! Heck even in new york they enacted a gun ban with any gun that can hold more than 5 rounds had to be registered! Later on they had to be turned in or taken out of the city! Back in the 50s and 60s guns werent regulated you could buy them at a hardware store yet there wasnt a single mass shooting! So what happened. Registration equals confiscation its worth a google! Look at canada as well
Yupia

Pro

Literally everything you just said is irrelevant as you're still basing your argument off a logical fallacy. The title says nothing about confiscation, its just registering, therefore you can assume that there would be no confiscation in this situation; Occam's razor my friend, you can't just assume something is going to happen than base your argument off that; the question isn't: Should the government have a national registry of all gun owners in the united states than start confiscating them.".
Debate Round No. 2
Blame_koney

Con

You have yet to even answer my simple question then should guns be registered? And actually everything i just said is completely relevant becuase it explains why i feel like you should not have to have guns registered! You havent even given me any arguement! All you said is my facts are irrlevent! Thats not an arguement! The answer to my question is NO guns should not be registered in the united atates BECAUSE i feel like it will lead to confisation just like it happened in many other countries in the 20th century including germany the soviet union and china and many more.... these countries all enacted gun registraion then gun confiscation then genocide! So please feel free to tell me why you feel like guns need to be registered in the united states!
Yupia

Pro

im not gonna have time to make a full argument so if this is a little short im sorry.

Registering guns will
-Help police solve crimes by making it easier to trace the last owner of a gun.
-Increase personal accountability, as people who have a registered gun are going to store it more securely.
-Ensuring owners of firearms are those actually permitted to own them. For instance, while one might need to pass a background check and complete other steps to purchase a particular weapon, some might feel a lack of registration requirement makes it too easy to transfer weapons from permitted owners to others (such as minors, those with criminal histories, etc).
-provides means of tracking and tracing back to owners particular firearms used in the commission of a crime.
i win by default as all your arguments are flawed.
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